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#6193261 - 02/19/12 04:59 AM Re: 1100 vs. New Italian Autos [Re: nyskt100]
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The gold standard in gas guns in the past 15 years is the Beretta, beginning with 303, then 390 and now 391. Agree w/ Battue, Remington has been left in Beretta's wake.

Remington was in lead, arguably, 30 years ago with the 1100. The gun balances well, is generally reliable (keep some "O" rings in your wallet). It's just been outpaced.

Some might argue that the Winchester Super X Model 1 is the finest gas gun of all time. I think I like it better than these others, but anyone who shoots one much has already had the overhaul kit installed. Then they run forever, or so I'm told.

To recoil operated guns, in practical terms, the Benelli has no peer. Apparent recoil slightly more than a gas gun, but ultra reliable.

That said, I'm a sop for tradition, and I'll take my old Browning Auto Five over all of them.

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#6193372 - 02/19/12 05:50 AM Re: 1100 vs. New Italian Autos [Re: GF1]
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The Super X Model 1 was a fantastic shotgun. Have shot them extensively and still own three. However, they will break when pounded hard and today parts become an issue. A bolt cracked on one: Expensive to replace and yes the buffer was in good shape. A trigger pin broke on another. The magazine tube on the originals will corrode rather quickly and should be replaced with the stainless option available from nu-line.

Shot an 1100 a good bit also and one day the magazine tube let go from the receiver and left me with the action and barrel in my right hand and the for-end and magazine tube in my left. Jams were common.

Really like the Super X Model 1, but when it comes to hard use the Beretta and Benalli will outrun them and when problems do occur the fix is relatively easy. Have also had a Beretta 391 a few years back that was fussy and knew of some others. However, for the most part it is a thing of the past with the newer offerings.



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#6193392 - 02/19/12 05:55 AM Re: 1100 vs. New Italian Autos [Re: battue]
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I have owned a SX-M1 since I bought it new in 1976, replaced the bolt buffer last year (old one was brittle and chipping out little hunks of plastic), own a M-2 Benelli and it is the easiest semi-auto to break down and clean I have ever had my hands on. My favorite is the Browning Auto-5, own two now and have owned two in the past I no longer own - I just cannot beat them for a great fit. Never owned a REM 1100, but did own a Sportsman 58, same fit, a decent gun but not as reliable as the others (to include the 1100).
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#6193454 - 02/19/12 06:14 AM Re: 1100 vs. New Italian Autos [Re: Odessa]
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Give me easy access to parts and I would still be shooting the Super X1 for clays. Heavy for long days in the field, but they were solid and relatively simple in operation and would feed on just about anything you gave them.

Winchester at one time made a shell which I think was called the "Feather" and the velocity was around 980FPS. The Super X1 would even work with them. Slowly for sure, but still work it did.
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#6194861 - 02/19/12 01:40 PM Re: 1100 vs. New Italian Autos [Re: battue]
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Shot my Benelli M1 Super 90 today. First registered targets of the year. Haven't shot since Aug outside of bird hunting. I SUCKED!
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#6194908 - 02/19/12 01:53 PM Re: 1100 vs. New Italian Autos [Re: MontanaCreekHunter]
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I've been practicing, you better kick it up. grin
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#6195054 - 02/19/12 02:31 PM Re: 1100 vs. New Italian Autos [Re: battue]
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Yeah well I am hoping to be in the acadamy this spring/summer so might not be shooting to much sporting this year. I am canidate #1 right now for one department. Keeping my fingers crossed!
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#6195073 - 02/19/12 02:38 PM Re: 1100 vs. New Italian Autos [Re: MontanaCreekHunter]
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It's going to happen, I'm sure of it. wink
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#6195097 - 02/19/12 02:45 PM Re: 1100 vs. New Italian Autos [Re: Cheesy]
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I am positive all the Dove guides in Argentina and Mexico sold off their Benellis and Berettas and stocked up on 1100's. grin
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#6195190 - 02/19/12 03:13 PM Re: 1100 vs. New Italian Autos [Re: Oldelkhunter]
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Originally Posted By: Oldelkhunter
I am positive all the Dove guides in Argentina and Mexico sold off their Benellis and Berettas and stocked up on 1100's. grin


LMAO
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