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Says the dude with the ignorant broad strokes.

Cole, I know you know the difference between a rogue butt hole of a cop (or even a rogue precint), and LEO's as a whole.

It's the way you and TRH attempt to paint ALL of the LEO community that is the problem.

Granted, you don't normally take it as far as TRH does.


It would just be good to see you guys attack the individual rather than the whole for a change.....

You mean you didn't get the memo on that from the international banking cartel? Musta come out while you were overseas.

Anyway, I agree with you totally on the correct exercise of discretion that should have been applied in this matter, absent circumstances that are not mentioned in the article.

For the people thinking it was an illegal arrest, think again. I suspect the well-intentioned neighbor's actions probably fall within some crime. It certainly wasn't a bright idea and easily could be viewed as reckless endangerment. Further, the fact that a person does not get convicted does not mean the police were wrong. Police work off a probable cause standard, not a "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. I frequently preach here that, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. That applies to the citizen here as well as the police.

Though, not as apprehensive as I feel every day that my kid attends public school. Seeing him get on that bus gives me shivers to the core....

Exactly!

I look at the spedometer because I know I like to push the legal limits!

If I get caught, it's my fault, not theirs!

I fully stand by your right to keep your kids at home.

It's the position itself, in the modern context, that creates the problems. It's human nature. Any armed organization of men with the legal authority to patrol public spaces enforcing the will of the state is going to routinely violate rights and threaten liberty. It cannot help but to. The Founders learned to hate such an arrangement in their time (based on their experience with Red Coats), and not only warned posterity against all such arrangements, but even prohibited it in the Constitution under the term "standing armies." The Red Coats constituted a standing army in our midst, exercising the sorts of powers we today take for granted by men we call police officers.

Pharmacist in Okie City is in prison...just sayin'.

A well thought out reply Cheyenne.

Sadly no, I was left out of that particular conspiracy. I was too busy polishing my black helicopter.

All that being said, I truly hope things go well for this man.

Oh wait, can I say that as a jack booted thug?

The Red Coats constituted a standing army in our midst, exercising the sorts of powers we today take for granted by men we call police officers.

as usual, Hawkeye, you "don't know much about history", as the song says.

The British army was not used for ordinary civil policing in the colonies, that was the function of sheriffs and constables. In fact, British officers were extremely wary of touching on colonial civil affairs because they and their men were subject to arrest by colonial sheriffs, and to ruinous judgments by vengeful American juries.

That's why John Adams had to defend the British soldiers accused in the Boston massacre in a Massachusetts civilian court.....there was no SOFA in place for British forces in the colonies.

Only if you're wishing the other jack-booted thugs well. Besides, you're in violation for polishing your black helicopter. They're supposed to be flat black, not jet black.

Ed

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Perhaps if so many 'cops' didn't defend and excuse their idiot brothers the broad brush wouldn't apply. But when so many cops become defensive at the stupid, even criminal actions of their blue brothers it confirms what many presume.

Perhaps if so many 'cops' didn't defend and excuse their idiot brothers the broad brush wouldn't apply. But when so many cops become defensive at the stupid, even criminal actions of their blue brothers it confirms what many presume.

Much of our Constitution and Bill of Rights comes directly from the experience of the Founding Fathers with the folks who've since been termed "Redcoats," (British regulars) that is to say, a reaction to the abuses suffered under their performance of various police and patrol functions in our latter colonial experience.

Perhaps if so many 'cops' didn't defend and excuse their idiot brothers the broad brush wouldn't apply. But when so many cops become defensive at the stupid, even criminal actions of their blue brothers it confirms what many presume.