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Originally Posted by Eremicus
You appreciate the post ? Why ? I find it raising questions about the issue of the gun's safety by implying that it's will blow up with factory ammo. However, there seem to be other factors involved. But we can't be sure because he won't tell us the rest of the story.
If he thinks by with holding any more information, he will not risk loosing his claim(s) for damages, it's too late for that. E


It's too late to claim damages? Ok Matlock. Thanks for the free legal advice.

Why do I appreciate the post? Because based on my experience it appears the weapon could have fired OOB. Olympic put out some rifles that fired OOB and I was quite thankful the owner of three, shared that information prior to my purchasing one of those pieces of schit. Additionally, if FN claims the use of the aftermarket site resulted in the weapon firing OOB, I would find that information beneficial.

Now, I am not saying I won't buy a 5.7X28 as a result of this post, but I am thankful for it being brought to my attention regardless and I hope we can learn of it's final outcome.

Does that make sense, or shall I break out the crayon font?




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My point was that he has already admiting to using handloads in it. That alone may well invaladate any claim for damages.
While firing out of battery is one possibility, use of improper ammo is certainly another.
If it has a firing out of battery problem, how come no other cases have come forth ?
So, like you, I want to know more. E

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Originally Posted by Eremicus
My point was that he has already admiting to using handloads in it. That alone may well invaladate any claim for damages.
While firing out of battery is one possibility, use of improper ammo is certainly another.
If it has a firing out of battery problem, how come no other cases have come forth ?
So, like you, I want to know more. E


And he told you quite plainly you can PM him. So why don't you take that route?


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Hope you heal quickly and well !

There is a whole website devoted to the 5.7x28.

There is a lot of knowledge there and also some fanatics (don't remind them that a K Hornet is faster)

Owned a PS 90 and managed to actually mount a 6X Leupold Alaskan on it. It was just a straight blowback, quite accurate and a fun shooter. Quite expensive to shoot and, except for a bigger magazine, could not match up to a basic AR 223 carbon fiber carbine.

Any rifle or handgun (except a properly timed revolver) can discharge out of battery if it has a mechanical issue or is not well maintained.

IMHO the 5.7 really has no application that cannot be met better by many other rifles/shotguns/handguns. Interesting, but so was the 5mm Remington.


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Surgery went well yesterday. Repaired the severed nerves and removed most of the schrapnel. It will be a few weeks until it is determined to what degree the surgery was successful.

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Some threads don't need pics. grin

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rub a little maiden oil into that and it'll be fine in the morning.


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All indications and the picture showed a factory round fired out of battery.
That is a clear indication of a gun design that can fire before lock up.
A little carbon in the chamber or any other reason to stop a round from chambering should never go off---PERIOD, the gun should stop. Does it have a floating pin that rammed forward when the round stopped?
Fair chase suffered a sever injury either from a factory round with a proud primer or a gun failure and I will stick with him 100%.
You can plainly see only half the case is in the chamber.
Fair Chase, I wish the best for you. Don't listen to a few that can't see what is in plain view.

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Originally Posted by bfrshooter
All indications and the picture showed a factory round fired out of battery.
That is a clear indication of a gun design that can fire before lock up.
A little carbon in the chamber or any other reason to stop a round from chambering should never go off---PERIOD, the gun should stop. Does it have a floating pin that rammed forward when the round stopped?
Fair chase suffered a sever injury either from a factory round with a proud primer or a gun failure and I will stick with him 100%.
You can plainly see only half the case is in the chamber.
Fair Chase, I wish the best for you. Don't listen to a few that can't see what is in plain view.


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dang. that makes me hurt just looking at it.


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FAIR CHASE:

Thank you for posting that most instructive photo of your injured hand. I now have more precise understanding of your injury. Please keep us informed how your healing progresses and how the companies involved respond to these events, as well as the results of investigation of the failure which caused all the fuss. I know two friends who had been planning on buying an FN FiveSeven. Their plans are on hold, pending lots more information, thanks to my telling them about your injury and the pistol's destruction that caused the injury.

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Glad to hear that FC. Modern medicine is really good these days. E

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You can plainly see from photographs tha the gun fired out of battery ? That's because the case partially protrudes ?
Oh sure.
Was the gun previously damaged by the handloads he used ? Tell us, of Wise One, does the picture tell us that too ?
How come all the thousands of other guns out there haven't come apart from factory ammo ? That gun and it's ammo have been out there what, 10-15 yrs. And the only problems so far have been from handloads. Now we have some believing that this is a factory ammo disaster. And our experts can see positve proof from a photograph. Sorry guys, I don't buy that kind of arm chair analysis. E

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Originally Posted by FAIR_CHASE
Surgery went well yesterday. Repaired the severed nerves and removed most of the schrapnel. It will be a few weeks until it is determined to what degree the surgery was successful.

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Hey, I wanna see the wound - move the pork chop outta the way.


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Originally Posted by Eremicus
You can plainly see from photographs tha the gun fired out of battery ? That's because the case partially protrudes ?
Oh sure.
Was the gun previously damaged by the handloads he used ? Tell us, of Wise One, does the picture tell us that too ?
How come all the thousands of other guns out there haven't come apart from factory ammo ? That gun and it's ammo have been out there what, 10-15 yrs. And the only problems so far have been from handloads. Now we have some believing that this is a factory ammo disaster. And our experts can see positve proof from a photograph. Sorry guys, I don't buy that kind of arm chair analysis. E


I'm glad you keep posting, because your opinion on this subject has been a real gray area for us.


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Originally Posted by FAIR_CHASE
Surgery went well yesterday. Repaired the severed nerves and removed most of the schrapnel. It will be a few weeks until it is determined to what degree the surgery was successful.

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Glad surgery went well! I hope the nerve function returns.


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Originally Posted by Eremicus
You can plainly see from photographs tha the gun fired out of battery ? That's because the case partially protrudes ?
Oh sure.
Was the gun previously damaged by the handloads he used ? Tell us, of Wise One, does the picture tell us that too ?
How come all the thousands of other guns out there haven't come apart from factory ammo ? That gun and it's ammo have been out there what, 10-15 yrs. And the only problems so far have been from handloads. Now we have some believing that this is a factory ammo disaster. And our experts can see positve proof from a photograph. Sorry guys, I don't buy that kind of arm chair analysis. E

I will never own one. Wish the OP good luck with his recovery. I had thought up to this point it was just a stupidly expensive 22 magnum center fire. Now its a stupidly expensive POS that also is about the same as a 22 magnum center fire.


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Originally Posted by Eremicus
You can plainly see from photographs tha the gun fired out of battery ? That's because the case partially protrudes ?
Oh sure.
Was the gun previously damaged by the handloads he used ? Tell us, of Wise One, does the picture tell us that too ?
How come all the thousands of other guns out there haven't come apart from factory ammo ? That gun and it's ammo have been out there what, 10-15 yrs. And the only problems so far have been from handloads. Now we have some believing that this is a factory ammo disaster. And our experts can see positve proof from a photograph. Sorry guys, I don't buy that kind of arm chair analysis. E

I will never own one. Wish the OP good luck with his recovery. I had thought up to this point it was just a stupidly expensive 22 magnum center fire. Now its a stupidly expensive POS that also is about the same as a 22 magnum center fire.


You and E should give seminars on objectivity.


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I had the back of my hand opened up like that 46 years ago and that picture made it hurt all over again!


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