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By the time when that bunch of us gathers at Quemado Lake this summer (13�15 July), I expect to have the clutter behind my computer chair shuttled-off to another midden, so there'll be room for someone to look over my shoulder at some performance comparisons on the computer.
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Looking forward to it. 
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Ken do you know who has or where a guy can find a reamer for the .220 Howell? Thomas, I think we should talk to David Kiff, at Pacific Precision, He makes one heck of a good tool, and TO PRINT. Dennis would be a good centrally based custodian / keeper for the thing. I've got a LARGE spectrum of .22 bushings in teensy .0001 increments to throw in / loan out, as needed. � Haven't sent 'em all yet, but I've begun with the specs for four of these Howell cartridges (.220, .240, .250, .260 so far � others later). E-mailed 'em to Greg and will, over time, send 'im all of 'em. So if you want a reamer made for your choice of the Howell family of AHR cartridges, you can get the specs from Greg. (I expect him to be around a while longer than I hope to be!)
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Ken, If Greg doesn't stop chasing Chupacabras around in the dark with a sharp stick, he might not be! Ed
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Don't worry 'bout Greg!
His sharp stick is deadlier than his spatula.
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What cartridges have similar capacity?
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What cartridges have similar capacity? Engineers don't usually speak "similar".
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What cartridges have similar capacity? Haven't checked. No other with unbelted or no oversized cases, I'm sure. Don't consider capacity to be their only attribute worth considering.
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You do mention it though, so it's not totally irrelevant.  Just trying to get a feel for capabilities.
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I found some interesting pics today whilst googling... .243 Win Vs. .220 Howell on the right I am assuming that is likely the 75gr Amax shown as loaded? ![[Linked Image]](http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/magnumthomas/cartridge3-1.jpg) 35 Whelen Vs. .350 Howell ![[Linked Image]](http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/magnumthomas/cartridge8.jpg) .338-06 Vs. .340 Howell ![[Linked Image]](http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/magnumthomas/cartridge7.jpg) .375-06 Vs. .380 Howell ![[Linked Image]](http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/magnumthomas/cartridge6.jpg) .270 Win Vs. .270 Howell ![[Linked Image]](http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/magnumthomas/cartridge4.jpg) .30-06 Vs. .300 Howell ![[Linked Image]](http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/magnumthomas/cartridge2.jpg)
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Gosh, that's going 'way back! (But still interesting.) Here's one o' my old posts from a passel o' years ago � One of the Good Guys on another thread asked me to compare the down-range performance of his .243 Winchester load and a typical .220 Howell load. (That other thread was on another subject, somewhat less interesting.)
It occurred to me that some of my other good buddies here may be interested in the same data, so here they are.
bullets � .220 Howell, 75-grain A-Max � .243 Winchester, 70-grain Sierra
barrel lengths 26 in.
zero (both rifles) � 295 yd
BC � .224 A-Max, 0.440 � .243 Sierra 0.259
velocity at muzzle � .220 Howell, 3,600 ft/sec � .243 Winchester, 3,620 ft/sec
velocity at 100 yd � .220 Howell, 3,350 ft/sec � .243 Winchester, 3,205 ft/sec
velocity at 200 yd � .220 Howell, 3,120 ft/sec � .243 Winchester, 2,830 ft/sec
velocity at 300 yd � .220 Howell, 2,900 ft/sec � .243 Winchester, 2,480 ft/sec
velocity at 400 yd � .220 Howell, 2,690 ft/sec � .243 Winchester, 2,160 ft/sec
velocity at 500 yd � .220 Howell, 2,485 ft/sec � .243 Winchester, 1,860 ft/sec
bullet path at 100 yd � .220 Howell, 2.1 in. � .243 Winchester, 2.5 in.
bullet path at 200 yd � .220 Howell, 2.7 in.� .243 Winchester, 3.3 in.
bullet path at 300 yd � .220 Howell, - 0.25 in. � .243 Winchester, - 0.3 in.
bullet path at 400 yd � .220 Howell, - 7.3 in. � .243 Winchester, - 9.6 in.
bullet path at 500 yd � .220 Howell, - 19.2 in. � .243 Winchester, - 25.4 in.
wind deflection at 100 yd � .220 Howell, 0.55 in. � .243 Winchester, 0.9 in. (10-mi/hr wind)
wind deflection at 200 yd � .220 Howell, 2.2 in. � .243 Winchester, 4 in.
wind deflection at 300 yd � .220 Howell, 5.1 in. � .243 Winchester, 9 in.
wind deflection at 400 yd � .220 Howell, 9.4 in. � .243 Winchester, 17.5 in.
wind deflection at 500 yd � .220 Howell, 15.2 in. � .243 Winchester, 29 in.
Unless I've typed-in a typo, these figures should be a heck of a lot more accurate than either of us can tell by shooting these rifles.
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Man that's pretty sweet stuff there.
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Thank you Ken. That was a very interesting read. Made my night shift go that much faster  Have access to 60 quarters of land north of Moonshine Lake in the Peace Country (Saddle Hills). Was asked to help thin the wolf/coyote population. .220 and 240 Howells' sound like just the ticket. Oh yeah, we have a $500 bounty on wolves up here! Keith, would be nice to see you at the party. Later....
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A gun-writer friend of mine urged Remington to adopt my .220 Howell � a varmint cartridge in lieu of yet another big-game cartridge, as everybody expected. That notion suited me right down to my socks 'n' garters, so I talked to the appropriate Remington wheeze and sent all the pertinent data to Remington. Asked nothing for 'em, ne'er a nickel, not even public acknowledgement.
Got a "nondisclosure agreement" form � filled it out and signed it � sent it back. Might as well have dropped a feather down a well � ne'er a sound.
Inquired a couple of years later.
"Yeah, we could've done it," the Remington guy said, "but � ."
(Translation � "It wasn't our idea.")
So they introduced yet another Remington loser.
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Never did anything with the .240 Howell, and AHR never had any brass made for it, as far as I know. You can neck-down and fire-form .270 Winchester or .280 Remington brass but will have a slightly shorter neck than my specs call for.
A tad less than a caseful of VihtaVuori N570 should, I suppose, boot a 107-grain Sierra out the front end of a 26-inch barrel at about 3,000 or more ft/sec and not give a wolf time to hate you for it.
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What cartridges have similar capacity? Haven't checked. Capacity varies with caliber. I haven't measured 'em all, so all that I can give you are the estimated gross capacities for the smallest and the largest � .220 Howell � about 62 grains of water .380 Howell � about 82� grains of water .400 Howell � haven't calculated that one yet � would guess maybe 85�90 grains of water, gross
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I've sent Greg my old drawings for all the family of Howell cartridges based on modified .30-06 brass, for him to do with 'em as he wishes.
I haven't acquired the knack of sending 'em by PM but will send any by e-mail attachment if you send me your e-mail address.
(No charge unless the demand demands it.)
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The new owner of AHR, Wayne Jacobson, seems to have abandoned the Howell family of cartridges, to limit the AHR selection to the bigger-the-better stuff. This seems to be AHR's bailiwick now � ![[Linked Image]](http://hunting-rifles.com/images/DSC00234.JPG) (You oughta have no trouble guessing what's turning me green!)
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Have ogled Ken's very special rifle in .220 Howell. It looks wonderful.
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Have ogled Ken's very special rifle in .220 Howell. It looks wonderful. Wish I had some ammo for it � to let the droolers at the Lake shoot it this summer. Have brass, primers, bullets, and all the necessary gear but no set-up. And I think that I let some ol' Campfart have my jug of Ramshot Magnum. So we'll all just hafta be satisfied with its beauty � and its set trigger.
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