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Any body have any experience with these? Good? Bad? indifferent?
Jim

Jim,

Glad to see your ugly mug over here. I have waited a couple of days to see what response this question got. Answer surprised me "Not To Damn Much Of A Response" These old boys must be a little shy, do you think? Either that or maybe a little clique? You make a choice.

Uberti Highwall Huh?? Here let me take a stab at this Jim Im damn sure not shy, and I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't be ask to join any clich anyways, and if I was I got this real cool answer. The Uberti highwall is one of the best "Entre" level BPCR's out there. I say that mostly for the cost factor but also they are not to bad of a shooter and would serve any one wanting to Get Started in this sport for some period of time with the only addition being sights. Then in a year or so you could rebarrel the pretty good Uberti Action with a damn good barrel to get down to some serious competition work. The Uberti's seem to shoot well, we have one shooter here in CA who has shot himself into Master Class with a bone stock Uberti 45-70. Cost wise they can be bought brand new in the box for $795.00 if you look hard and another $100.00 will get you one without shopping at all.

But since you asked what or some other very good "Entrance" level BPCR's. My choices will reflect my own opinions but I certainly would choose a Highwall. If money is the issue then the C.Sharps Highwall is a real good choice for the dollars, has a good ( not best Badger Barrel) a really good single trigger with a little work and the action is a forging and solid as hell.

I cringe when so many advise on the Browning BPCR. But in truth they are a good servicable rifle. Very accurate if the shooter knows how to work up a load. But they all need serious trigger work, and sights as well.

There are a couple of more that come to mind but you didn't ask that question in the first place so I'm not answering it. Maybe somebody else will have an opinion.

Gunny

Apologies, for not responding, it's been a screwy week, but productive....inletting , and bedding some stocks, and trying to stay up to speed on the fall harvest.

Steve Rhoades, out of Phoenix did the same thing...shot into master, with one of these...........He sold it to a fellow down here in my neck of the woods...'bout 5 years ago.

I've got the original Uberti barrel on the rack....and will someday mill a mag radius down the lower flat, and build a heavy lever gun with it.

It's not a bad barrel, but pretty light, for a BPCR rig.

We stripped it down, and fitted a Win #4 profile oct. Badger 1 in 18.........chambered it in .45-70 match. Really fine shooting rifle resulted...........

I was impressed with the quality of replication, and " close to original print" aspect of the action, and how well the triggers tuned....by tweaking the counter-opposed flat springs. As the new owner was a high power shooter, he was not to obsessive about angel -fart weight triggers, the crisp 2.5 lb break satisfied him.

I guess my only thoughts on the negative side, would be that as issued, they are a bit light, in the heavier calibers.

Anyone seen Uberti's new double set version, supposed to be available now?

GTC

Gunny,

Your post got my curiosity up. What do you mean about the C. Sharps having a good Badger barrel but not the best? Do you mean that Badger sells different grades of barrel? Is it the same with the Browning BPCRs, which I also understand have Badger barrels? Inquiring minds want to know!

Paul

None of the above, Gunny... I spend too much time with 'my foot in my mouth' over things I "think" I understand already; I "know absolutely nothing" about Uberti, so wisdom tells me to 'hide and watch'. Jim would have been unimpressed with anything I might have said... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

NOTICE :...................Secret Clique meeting, at 1800hr. MST, this evening......Tin foil Hats...still optional, .....................

.............but strongly recomended.

GTC

I started out with a Uberti and shot my way in to AAA with it, they work great and I never had a problem with it.

Negatives.... wood was plainer than a mud fence, trigger could have been lightened up, needed a pistol grip, and that crescent buttplate will get your attention..

Would I buy another one ... you bet if the price was right, I slugged the barrel and it had a little taper to the bore (a little tighter at the muzzle) and I think that helped the accuracy.

Never noticed anything bad about the barrel or action and some day I'll probably have it rebarreled to a different caliber (something I don't already have), put some decent wood on it with a pistol grip and a shotgun butt

But thats for another day

Gary

Nice to hear that...'tis a byproduct of lapping, dunno it Uberti does that, or if it occurred for some other reason...Pope did it intentionally to his barrels. They shot well enough.

Paul,

My comments about Badger was a little misleading I quess. As far as I know Badger "Does Not!" have multi grades of barrel quality. The comment was intended to all Badger Barrels as being a good barrel as opposed to a great barrels.

Gunny

Gunny,

OK, does anyone, in your opinion, make a truly great BPCR barrel? I'm still learning about this stuff.

Paul

Paul,

Now once again anything I say is only my opinion, and becuase of that subjective, however I think i am pretty right. Badger has been for a long period if time, too long I think, the standared in BPCR barrels. The are a fair barrel and serviceable. A hell of a lot of matches are won and lost with Badger barrrels. It is the barrel on my match Meacham Highwall, it got to match grade by a hell of a lot of work by me and I still feel it is only fair. Douglas and Kreiger both make a superior barrel for our type of shooting and if the shooter is happy with a round barrel they are fine as they are. Me i prefer a octagon barrel and Douglas and Kriegers will need to be profiled to get the shape. Another barrel out there and they are a damn fine barrel is Green Mountain BPCR barrels, they cost less than half what a Badger does and are every damn bit as good fresh out of the box as any Badger I have ever seen. I have just had a Green mountain barrel installed on a rifle I had made for me. It is a Meacham highwall action witha 40 caliber Green Mountain barrel and this rifle shows great promise. I have not had the time to shoot it as much as I would like as it is just complete but I still have chunked over 1,000 bullets down range and it gets better as I grow more accustomed to it. This barrel has never once showed any tendency towards leading or any problems at all. It is everything any shooter would expect from a new barrel and cost $124.00 compare that to a Badger at over $300. While I never let cost determine my choice in equipment I am very happy with this barrel.

Gunny

Thanks to all for the replys.
Gunny, I can get one of these through my employer for cost, and asked the question to find out about quality, etc. I thought that Kelly would have had something to say about them, the way he likes hiwalls.
I think I will go with the double set trigger option ($150.00 retail), pistol grip stock, Heilman soule and his front sight with the "Trigger Dr" modification.
OH YEAH ..........40/65
And Gunny on a more personal side,and a day or so late Happy Birthday Marine. OOHRAH
Jim

Jim,

I don't know anything about the Uberti High-Walls.

Kelley O.

Folks, I am here to tell you that Hell just froze over, and that is for sure and for certain.

Kelley, since when did your knowing or not knowing about any subject stop you from commentinmg on it? Is this some kind of new Kelley O Roos rule?? Inquiring minds "NEED" to Know. :>)(

Gunny

[color:"red"] [/color] I thought you took up fishing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />, Gunny.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
Kelley O.

Yea! And I thought that you gave up posting!! Goes to show you what thinking will do for you.

I did take up fishing Kelley, I am trying everything I can think of to get this leg better functioning to such an extent that I can get back to doing some other stuff. The fishing is just an excuse to get me out and about. I just bought another boat top go along with the bass boat I bought this summer. This damn thing is a Gen--U---wine boat. 28FT long and it has two cabins, and two 350 chevys for power. Damn thing holds 250 gals of fuel. Trouble is once you get it all filled up you can't afford to go anywhere. Joanne and I spent the weekend on it and caught some Stripers, and I got a dozen hours of water thearpy in.

Gunny

Gunny,
Another belated B'day wish for the Corp's- Just got back from some Veterans Day doings in DC & got a warm handshake and thanks from your #1 Marine- Gen. Pete Pace (currently the Chairman of the Joint Chief's). Very impressive guy (platoon Ldr. in RVN).
I see Kelley is back in the game nibbling some- like a moth to the flame <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Where did he accuire this recent restraint??
D-D's commentarys have been welcome to this reader & hope that he continues to contribute & oppine. I believe that he has me motivated to play again with the 606 gr. Super Zep- maybe load it down some to 1150. I'm starting to think that you need to go to a match (if no power factor is involved) with two different loads. Fast for little to no wind & slow for lots of X-wind! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
CFO- I haven't fooled with gooveless, but the mono-groove has gone down the barrel a lot with some fair success. I've watched Rick Moritz devastate some silhouettes with that new mini-groove bullet of Dan T's in .38-50, but it sure did not work for him in .45-90 in the recent Creedmoor.
Oh, yeah-- I don't know a damn thing about Uberti's either!! ...Dennis

Yup, that describes me too.

Gunny,
I'm only posting when something interest me, kind of like fishing. Most of the crap I'm reading is boring and makes me wonder if any of those guys have any common sense, Gunny you don't count as you have no sense <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />.

At least on this board the IQ's of the posters seems above average and I'm giving you the benefit of a dought <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Kelley O.

PS I've shot the grooveless bullet in both 40 and 45 cal. Maybe if the bribe is good enough I'll tell results <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

Kelley,

Man that was quite a post. You where able to insult just about everybody in just 62 words. Man what an EGO no wonder you stopped posting, you had to be afraid you'r damn head was going to explode, what with that much cranial swelling.

I doubt if anyone is really interested in what you think about that grooveless bullet, so you might as well keep that to yourself. But I am interested in how you did in the Creedmoor at Raton. Surly all of those rumors about your shooting bud shooting by himself where wrong. Wern't they?

Gunny

Okay, I bid 3 30-30 cases(used), a box of .422" Swaged FNCB tapered paper patch bullets-dead soft and 300 grains, and you get to pay shipping. Oh, I have a really good recipe for grouper if you have any in the freezer. How's that? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Gunny,

Yep, rumors are true <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />. I was going to loose my temper and murder is still against the law <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />, so I choose to vacate the area. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Besides, I'm sure you got a ear full from a long distance call <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />, you know the routine. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> And yes, my hat is a touch bigger. And no matter what you say I still think most posters are dumb asses and besides so do you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. So what can I say <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

D-D,

Grouper huh! well, since the knuckle dragger-AKA-Gunny, isn't interested I'll have to share in private. That's what you get for insulting me, Gunny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Kelley O.

NOW CHILDREN....
Jim

I've got a Uberti highwall in 40/65 and like it, although it is about to be sold!
(Too many BPCR's and can only enjoy a few!)
Cat

Ron Long says they're pretty good, and I don't know if there would be a better assesment than that.

I knew Ron back in the early '70s in Denver, when he was just starting out making locks for muzzleloaders. Where is he and what is he up to these days? I remember that he was a helluva shot with a flintlock!

Hey Ranch13, who will make Campfire Ranger first? Were both getting close to 1000 posts!

Paul

Ron is in Cheyenne.
Paul we may have run into each other in former lives, I shot flintlock way back then as well. Also talk to Ron Carr pretty regular.
Hard to tell who'll make it first , guess I hadn't paid much attention to post count.

The name Ron Carr sounds familiar, but I can't place him. I shot with the muzzleloading group at the Aurora Gun Club from about 1973 to 1976. Great bunch of guys! It certainly was another life, at least for me, and I have fond memories of Colorado in those days. A lot of water has gone over the dam since then.

Paul

Ah, yes, Ron Long�s barrels� When �wisdom� on barrels was being previously espoused as to good, better, best, etc� I noticed Ron Long�s were not mentioned (because of honeryness or they didn�t own one to bloviate over??)

So happens I own two of them. One is on an (original ;-) 1885 Winchester in .45-70. The other has the metal built-up by Mr. Long on a Ruger#3; has an Austrian single-set trigger, octagon barrel chambered to .40-65 RL, Axtell sights (about all that was available then). Among my bullet moulds are Ron Long�s tapered (heavy) spitzer moulds in both .40 and .45.
Both rifles shoot VERY well, thank you!!

Ron makes some very nice stuff. Last I heard he was involved with the Ballard rifle in Montana, but as I understand it they fell-out and I don't know where he wound up. I believe it was in the last BPCR/Garbe publication where I saw him at a shoot <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


Sorry, but this pix. does not do it 'justice'... (has h/q fiddle-back walnut and '85 buttplate)

Paul both Ron's ran together in the bp shooting circles in and around Denver.
I see there is a couple of Ron Long's rifles listed at Track of the Wolf, wish I were a rich man. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Yes, I too in my younger days (late '60's after Vietnam) shot MLs with Mr. Long at the ML range way out in the country north of Broomfield, Colo. I was by there the other day & it is now nearly solid homes around a golf course- "Time Flies"! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

When I was but a lad growing up east of Cheyenne someone proslitized that someday it would just be one big megopolis from Cheyenne to Pueblo.
I thought they were plum loco, guess they may have been a little more right than I gave em credit for. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I remember shooting jackrabbits near where Stapleton International was built. I believe it was called Rattlesnake Flats. By the '70s it was all housing developments.

Paul