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 Yeah, light rifle that will handle anything from 'yotes to elk and will easily outshoot any Remington I own....horrible. Front shoulders, Swampy, front shoulders. Someday you might learn to shoot. You might realize, then, that a .260 is all a guy "needs". George
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Yeah...6.5s are so junk. LOL. ok
Oh you meant the CARTRIDGE .260 no caliber. LOL. Showing your true colors.
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You could have just left it at that.... The .260 got my vote and my Montana shoots the 120 TSX into little bug-holes. Swampy, take a note: If you shoot deer in the shoulders in stead of the azz, it doesn't take much to put them down. George It makes perfect sense you'd buy junk in a caliber that makes no sense. This coming from an ass that thinks the rifle world begins and ends with the Remington 700!!!
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Go to Walmart or Bass Pro Shop and price the ammo. .308 is $5.00 to $10.00 cheaper, that is if you can even find 7MM-08 or .260. Even if you reload the components are cheaper, and .308 brass is frequently free for the asking. I'm just sayin'. trusting a guy who doesn't handload is as dumb as trusting a democrat to date your daughter... it just ain't natural....
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You could have just left it at that.... The .260 got my vote and my Montana shoots the 120 TSX into little bug-holes. Swampy, take a note: If you shoot deer in the shoulders in stead of the azz, it doesn't take much to put them down. George It makes perfect sense you'd buy junk in a caliber that makes no sense. another expert opinion from someone who hasn't used one in the field??? to quote Ingwe on the poster ( It fits the best!): AND THE LEGEND CONTINUES...
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
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If .308 brass is free then so is 7-08. And .260. Same for .243.
So what's the big deal?
The Mayans had it right. If you�re going to predict the future, it�s best to aim far beyond your life expectancy, lest you wind up red-faced in a bunker overstocked with Spam and ammo.
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I reload.....if you have to ask that question, then never mind.
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Yeah...6.5s are so junk. LOL. ok
Oh you meant the CARTRIDGE .260 no caliber. LOL. Showing your true colors. No Montanas are junk....try to keep up.
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I guess there are reasons for the .260 and the 7mm-08, but i don't know what they are. Yes, but the same is true on so many subjects and levels. The depth and breadth of your ignorance knows no bounds.
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Yeah...6.5s are so junk. LOL. ok
Oh you meant the CARTRIDGE .260 no caliber. LOL. Showing your true colors. No Montanas are junk....try to keep up. How many Montana's have you owned Mark?
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Yeah...6.5s are so junk. LOL. ok
Oh you meant the CARTRIDGE .260 no caliber. LOL. Showing your true colors. No Montanas are junk....try to keep up. Trying to keep up with ignorant elitist like you is senseless. You can be full fledged, 100% documented wrong and your ignorance will cloud your judgement, once agin. This will cause uncontrolable spewing of BS. As demonstrated so well in this thread.
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Continually amazes me how an OP can pose a simple question on here, only to have it turn into a 500 page diatribe on who sucks the most, the longest  .
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I reload.....if you have to ask that question, then never mind. Have you tried reloading your brain?
The Mayans had it right. If you�re going to predict the future, it�s best to aim far beyond your life expectancy, lest you wind up red-faced in a bunker overstocked with Spam and ammo.
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Swampman - your name wouldn't be 'Larry' would it?
As to having to 'TURN BRASS' when necking from 308 to 260, I have done it and used the on occasion w/o any ill effect, both from Federal 7/08 and Fed 308 Brass, although it cleans up the 'slop' in a factory Saami chamber - it only helps accuracy.
FWIW, my Sako 75 sporter put the first 2 shots in the SAME HOLE at 200 yards of a 3 shot group, BACK TO BACK using the above brass without ANY neck turning.
Speaking w/o experience is....well, spewing Assumptions.
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Not trying to high jack the thread, but I could not decide so I bought both. Here is the .260 Rem.. The full write up is posted under the Custom Build thread. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa332/jbo69/DSC_0009.jpg) ***now back to the infighting*************
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No to be a plick, but did you consider a 6.5-284 on the SA? That's what I'd love if I had a SS short action right now.
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Thats a great cartridge...i have just been consolidating things over the past year and have several 308 based calibers. Sooo it just fit.
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Not trying to high jack the thread, but I could not decide so I bought both. Here is the .260 Rem.. The full write up is posted under the Custom Build thread. ***now back to the infighting************* I had to go find the spec's, very nice!
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Ditto, cannot reply on the blueprint posts w/o getting logged off trying.......
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I'm talking recoil, which is less with lighter bullets used in either the 7-08 or the .260. You can't cheat physics, even if you say you can't feel the difference. If you can't feel the difference (and you cant), it's a moot point. As I mentioned .308 reloading components are cheaper. I guess there are reasons for the .260 and the 7mm-08, but i don't know what they are. Perhaps your shoulder is as numb as your brain. There is a significant difference in recoil given bullets with similar construction, Sectional Densities or Ballistic Coefficients. Case in point, consider the following, based on Nosler�s fastest published data for uncompressed .260 Rem /.308 Win loads and using an 8.3 pound rifle in every case: .264�/130g AB, 2847fps, 43.5g powder, SD = .266, BC = .488 .264�/140g AB, 2820fps, 44.0g powder, SD = .287, BC = .509 .308�/180g AB, 2638fps, 42.5g powder, SD = .271, BC = .507 Calculated Recoil ================= 12.60 fp = .264�/130g 13.82 fp = .264�/140g 17.35 fp = .308�/180g In case you are as bad at simple math as you are a logical arguments, that is a 41.4% increase in recoil when going from the .264�/130g to the .308�/180g bullet. It is a 25.5% increase when comparing the .264�/140g to the .308�/180g bullet. Zero/Maximum Point Blank Range (6� diameter target) ========================================== 243 yds/286 yds= .264�/130g 242 yds/284 yds= .264�/140g 226 yds/266 yds= .308�/180g 300 yard ballistics (10mph crosswind, Point Blank v1.8a) ========================================== -4.33�, 2324fps, 1439fpe, 5.94� drift = .264�/130g -4.45�, 2320fps, 1673fpe, 5.74� drift = .264�/140g -6.59�, 2156fps, 1858fpe, 6.41� drift = .308�/180g 600 yard ballistics (10mph crosswind, Point Blank v1.8a) ========================================== -65.90�, 1860fps, 992fpe, 26.36� drift = .264�/130g -66.23�, 1874fps, 1092fpe, 25.38� drift = .264�/140g -80.13�, 1730fps, 1195fpe, 28.41� drift = .308�/180g If you accept 1800fps as the minimum working velocity for the AccuBond bullets, as specified by Nosler, the 130g and 140g .264� bullets add 95 yards and 110 yds respectfully over the 180g/.308� load (130g = 640 yds, 140g = 655 yds, 180g = 545 yds). Considering that 300 yards is well beyond the range where most game is taken and that the vast majority of game is deer and smaller, the 130g/.264� load seems very reasonable and doesn�t incur the 41.4% increase in recoil that comes with the .308�/180g load. Even at 600 yards the .308�/180g load isn�t providing anything that is needed for most hunting purposes. As to the recoil, if you can�t feel the a 25% or 41% difference in recoil, you ought to see a doctor.
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