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I'm interested in getting into BPCR, from a shooting and hunting standpoint. I'm thinking Pedersoli and a 45-70 to start? I'd love a Shiloh Sharps in 50-90 because I love big bores, but trying to be realistic. Thoughts?

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Go with a Shiloh to start with and leave the Italian junk for those with funny hats.

LOL...yes, they do look like the real deal.

Of the Italian clones, Pedersoli is the best, IMHO.

Their barrels are very good and they'll give the more expensive American made Sharps a run for the roses.

Here is my .45-70 Pedersoli Sharps with Lee Shaver sights.

Below is my .45-70 Browning BPCR, made by Miroku in Japan, using American Walnut and a Badger barrel (USA). This one is set up for Louisiana Primitive weapons deer season with a VX-3 3.5-10x40 CDS, shooting 250 gr. Barnes TSX at 2,550 fps with the CDS set up for that load. It will print around 4" at 300 yds. Not too primitive...

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It starts with how much do you have to spend?

Without knowing that, we are all spinning wheels.

Probably best bang for the buck is the Browning 1885 BPCR in .45-70. But what do you want to spend?

I'd like a model 74; the classic "Sharps" in my view. Yes, I know price is the determining factor; $1,250 or so for a Pedersoli and $2,000-$3,000 for a Sharps. I'm not adverse to spending the money, as I have safari rifles that were well over $10K. I guess maybe I'll start with a Sharps, and if I lose interest after some time, they seem to hold their value well for resale.

If you get the Pedersoli, you won't be sorry. They are very accurate.

then Sharps it should be. Buy a used Shiloh and sell it for what you paid if you don't like it.

Well then that is exactly what you should do. A basic Shiloh #3 at 1800 or the roughrider and #1 priced at 1902. From there you can add stuff, but be sure and do your price checking carefully. The Italians are not that much cheaper when you get all said and done, and anybody that try's to seriously compare the quality between the Italians and the Big Timber guns is full of crap when they say the Italians are as good.
C Sharps basic 74's cost about the same as the Shiloh. Both will sell used for what they cost originally, try that one with an Italian repro.

Get a Shiloh 45-70 and don't look back. Get a 30 inch barrel and a shotgun buttplate and you'll be set. It is a fact that nobody ever sells a Shiloh so that they can buy a Pedersoli. On the other hand...

Biebs my friend, when Sharpsguy, Ranch 13 or BrentD* say "jump" regarding BPCR, my response is "how high." Sharpsguy has probably sent a half million rounds downrange with these rifles. I was given a beautiful Sharps #3 Sporter in 45-110 by Evil Twin as a retirement gift (what a guy huh?!) and SG graciously invited me to his home in Texas where among other things, he as a 500 yard range outside his backdoor. I spent three days there going to "school" and within a few rounds he had me hitting the 500 yard sheep Silhouette with Barrel Sights! He also taught me the intricacies of art of BP loading. I could not have done it without him. There just aren't any more knowledgeable guys out there than these three. Good luck but I warn you, once you come to the "dark side" all other shooting becomes secondary! jorge

*Even though he's a liberal puke...

Yes, I hear you on the Shiloh Sharps. I know from my years with centerfire rifles; you start with a Remington, move up to a Kimber, then on to an HS Precision, and finally wind up with a Jarrett. Might as well cut out the "procession" this time around. :-)

Hey Biebs, shrapnel has a nice 50-90 Sharps '74 in the classifieds, I like it.

Gunner

Ding, ding, ding . . . we have a winner. Biebs, save your sheckels and start at the top, you will not be sorry. AND for when the time comes . . . WELCOME ABOARD ! ! !

Yes. As someone mentioned here one time, one never hears of someone selling the Sharps to buy a Pedersoli. The other way around, quite common. I held out for a Shiloh and it was damned well worth it. Fit and finish equals the finest of the European makes.

You can buy a Pedersoli for 1/3 to 1/2 what a Shiloh cost (I just did)and you don't have to wait 15+ months to get it. Like I said buy a Pedersoli you won't be sorry.

You should get hold of Pedersoli, and apply for Dick Trenk's old job.

You've got that same Used Car Salesman style.

GTC

CRAP, sorry Biebs, found another post that says rifle is SPF, i'll keep a look out though.

Gunner

Thanks...I've got a few coming out of the safes now. Decisions, decisions! :-)

I was gonna try and work a three way with ya, in case you didnt like the 50-90 i was gonna see about trading you my 45-120, and i'd take the 50.

Gunner