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10-4, next time i'm at the shop i'll get a brand name on the sights.

Thanks,
Gunner

No first hand knowledge, but I believe that at one time C. Sharps supplied Parts Unknown sights, now branded Red River. Those sights were/are made in Ukraine, and imported through Canada. They seem to be decent, but not in a class with MVA or other top US brands.

Another place to peruse various sights is the Buffalo Arms catalog. Beware though, it is a huge wish book for BPCR related goodies, and shopping can get costly.

Paul

hey Paul, just called my Bud and he said the rifle had Kelly KOS? sights both front and rear and an MVA someting or another for a spare.

Gunner

Wow, those are good ones. Don't know what KOS stands for, but BACO carries Kelly and they are good, and costly. Pretty flossy too, with color casing, brass fittings, and all, if that floats your boat.

BACO = Buffalo Arms Co.

Paul

10-roger Paul, I knew they looked alot different than the Shiloh mid-range sight on my rifle, Yes, these were purty

Gunner

I can't advise you as to the exact worth and value of that package, but I will say that if I were in your shoes I'd be taking a close look at it. It is an excellent combo all the way around. I admit that I'm partial to the high wall, and if I were to build one it'd be on a C. Sharps action.

If you were to show up at a BPCR match with that outfit, the old hands wouldn't look at you and roll their eyes with that "Ya damned fool!" look. It's a very respectable rig.

Paul

HAHA Thanks, they will in fact roll there eyes at me when i show up with that blasted 45-120

Gunner

I honestly wasn't aware or had forgotten that you had a .45-120. You can just take your chances on that one!

Seriously, the .40-65 would be a lot more practical and fun for just about any form of shooting,

Paul

Yes on the 120, got my PP supplies in today, I'm gonna try and roll some this weekend.

Gunner

Good luck. I've had decent success as a beginner with paper patching.

Hope it works out for you.

Paul

Thanks Paul

Gunner

Think carefully what you want your BPCR to do. I came across a spotless (mint) used Shiloh in .40-65 and traded a Winchester Traditional Hunter Hi-Wall that I absolutely hated (curved steel butt plate) and a little cash for it. Mine is a heavy half, 30", SG butt, with no upgrades. It is a sweet rifle, and it compares in fit and finish with anyone's custom rifle. I am not into either LR competition or steel animals. It is a big improvement over the Winchester, but it is still not exactly the right configuration for me. Too heavy for hunting, ok for informal paper. I would be better served with a 26-28" standard half barrel, on a #3, and likely in .45-70 as I have more experience with that round. The greasers take up too much case space with black, and I have not yet found the right combo for bullet, paper thickness, and crimp with the patched bullets. Paper/black appeals to me, but it has been frustrating - but I have not given up. I have considered a re-chamber to .40-82. Why not sell it? It is just fine for paper, could work on steel, ok for stand hunting, and I have bought a Ruger No. 1 SC (26" heavier [8# naked] .45-70) that could serve my still hunting needs. Not an 1884, but.... best wishes, jack

Two other things: Do not overlook the Military or Business rifles for hunting purposes. I have also been reluctant to get into casting. That may be necessary to be a successful BPCR shooter. jt

jt: hang around here long enough and some of our experts like Sharpsguy will have you shooting that rifle well in no time. Stick with it!

Jt two of my main rifles have 30 inch heavy barrels, and a third one has a 30 inch heavy round barrel... Feller just needs to buff up a bit to go hunting, and slings are nice things.
To get your patched bullets to shooting in that 40-65 you will definetly have to start casting your own. You'll need a bullet about .390-395 diameter. Or if you go with a 400 dia bullet then you'll be patching closer to groove diameter and having to seat the bullet's deep like a greaser to get them to chamber.
Besides all that it's cheaper to cast your own,than it is to buy ready mades, and that alone will have you shooting more, and shooting more will make load developement quicker and easier.

Thanks JT, the 40-65 i was talking about is a very heavy target type rifle, but after carrying a 14 lb 577 Nitro double, rifle weight is a non-issue with me, and the way i still hunt it works out perfectly, walk a bit, then glass.

My '74 Sharps is a 45-120, I will develop an accurate PP load for hunting and light target shooting, the 550 gn PP bullet at 1500 fps should work fine for Deer, Elk, Hogs, and Bison.

Gunner


And as Jorge stated, a wealth of info is available right here.

Fixt

jorge1, you think? I am almost resigned that I am going to have to roll my own bullets. I was going to sell it, but one of SG's deciples (I think) a local physician whom shoots with a gentleman over in east Texas, talked me into keeping on keeping on. My biggest gripe w/paper is that when I unload, most of the time my bullet stays in the barrel. Card wads keep the powder from dumping, but it is still a PIA. Not a problem on paper targets, just shoot, but for hunting there are times when unloading is called for. I am down to about .392 wrapped to .399. The taper crimp die may be a bit over sized, but they just don't hold. thanks, jack

The OLD time PP hunting slugs were tapered.

LMAO ET, and lets not forget the elusive and highly prized blue nosed kawildabeast

Gunner

You might want to give Steve Baldwin in Jones Oklahoma a call he builds BPCR rifles and sights.

http://www.baldwin-sights.com/