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whl.... day-um, dude, you have some nice guns there!!!

For me, the choice is not hypothetical- it is the .45 Colt, in both my Winchester Trails End and in two Ruger Bisley Vaquero old model revolvers. I handload for both, and shoot Cowboy ammo in both. Extremely versatile combo, for just about everything you might want to hunt or shoot at, at closer to moderate ranges.

Thanks, Doc! Since I am repulsive to women (which I am starting to think may be the luckiest thing that has ever happened to me...) I can spend all the money I save from not having a social life on nice shootin' irons.

Oh, I edited my post to include another 9mm pair I forgot:

A 10mm MP5 would be sweet. That with a Glock, as you say, would make a nice deadly combo. indeed.

WHB, Is that a S&W 76 or a MK 760?

S&W 76

As in full-auto S&W 76? Excuse my ignorance, but I don't recall a semi-auto version.

Yes, it's a full auto (or more accurately, selective fire) version, registered on a Form 4.

If a guy chose the 45 Colt for a combination why wouldn't he choose the 454 as a combo?Load the 454(454 brass) with about 23 grains of 2400 and you get right at 1300 fps(6.5" barrel) with a 300 grain XTP and more with the levergun then if hunting really big guys or shooting longer range and more smack,throw some H-110/296 or lil'Gun in 454 brass and it's right up there with the heavy hitters.

I load my 454 to 45 Colt velocities with 454 brass and 2400.Forget 45 brass in the 454 if you can!

Jayco

Honest question here.
Are there any .454 Lever guns available other than the Legacy/Rossi Puma copy of the '92?

That is the only one I know off hand.

Browning Single shots - but repeaters? None that I can think of.

There was Wild West Guns and another I can't remember..Talk is once the Buffalo guys get the big .500 S&W fixed right in there levergun,they will make the 454 Casull in a levergun.

Here is one prototype..I think it was Wild West guns..Don't quote me but it is the action that fails in a levergun with a SAAMI of 65,000 PSI.



Jayco

Me either.
I wish there was because I could dig one without much convincing. The Rossi .454 that I handled last year left me a bit underwhelmed.

I was going to get one for another rifle/pistol combo but passed keeping my 45-70 combo...

By the way..I use 46 grains of RL-7 in Starline brass with a CCI-Military #34 primer(Mag) for 1867 fps out of my Guide Gun and 1600 out of my 7.5" BFR.

Jayco

I would like one of the Bighorn Armory .500 S&W 89s, but they are awful proud of them. For the price they are asking I'd rather have the .475 leverguns from Turnbull.



but that is me getting topic as that is since the Turnbull isn't a handgun round...

That load is VERY close to my load using Rem brass, and the Cast Precision LBT 420gr WLNGC

I would wait a while on the Bighorn Armory .500..Seems they are having a few issues or atleast,last I heard.

If you take the .500 Smith and Wesson and shoot it in an Handi Rifle with a 22" barrel..This is what you get by John Taffin!

The 45-70 meets or beats all this data in a modern rifle.



Jayco

In all truth like I said above for the price Bighorn wants for their gun and even if the bugs were all worked out of it - I would rather buy Turnbull's '86 .475 Turnbull levergun.
I know thats not a pistol cartridge obviously so its not exactly what intent of the thread is, I just mean for the kind of money I would spend I would rather have the Turnbull.


Its tough to beat the .45-70 rifle pistol combo in my opinion. Its just not everybodys cup of tea.

Rossi/Puma made a few 92's in .480 Ruger, which would be a nice combo to my Super Redhawk .480, but I was not real impressed with the examples I handled. Ruger, of course did some #1's in .475 Linebaugh, which will chamber & fire .480's, but is probably not the optimum chamber for it.

Now that Miroku is making Model 92's in .45 Colt, it should be fairly straightforward to ream one to .454, or rebore for .480. I am not sure what OAL cartridge length they could handle, however. The quality of the guns should be excellent, though one wishes they were made here and not Japan.

I sure would like to see someone like a Shiloh - or even Ruger step up and make quality leverguns here, be they replicas of the Marlins, or the 1892/1886's.

I have one of the Miroku M1886's. Aside from the bogus tang safety (which I buried under a Marbles tang sight) it is a very, very nice rifle. Nothing wrong with the Japanese workmanship.

Of course it would be nicer to have them made here in the USA, but I think I'll probably have to spring for one of the Miroku M1892's soon. The Rossi guns are really variable in a lot of respects.