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When taking shots in the wind, do you feel more comfortable with one of your .260s? or do you have the same confidence with your .308s?
Is there a point while shooting in windy conditions that you'd shut your .308s down but still run your .260s? vice versa?
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Right on! That heavy .308 of mine has 4000+ rounds through it and still shoots in the .2's and .3's.
Pat, what's your edjumicated guess on the useful life of a 260 barrel vs. 308? Or at least, what are others saying about the 260's life? 3000 is the word..I'm at 2000 with that Crusader .260 and it's still shooting bugholes. Even my 6XC has 2700 through it and still going although the throat looks a bit haggered. From my experience barrel life can vary a bit from tube to tube. A lot depends on how you shoot them and how you load for them.
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When taking shots in the wind, do you feel more comfortable with one of your .260s? or do you have the same confidence with your .308s?
Is there a point while shooting in windy conditions that you'd shut your .308s down but still run your .260s? vice versa?
Thanks Out to 500 meters they are pretty close. I notice a slight change from there to 600 and past 600 in strong wind the .260 is easily the clear winner. I'd say for hunting big game, they are pretty equal if you limit your shots to 500 or so and the wind isn't too severe. If you know how to call wind, the .308 will serve you fine. The 260 will allow a little margine for error.
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Nice rifles & good info.
I'm more of a .308 guy, out of long habit. Good shooting Pat!
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Bump up for an awesome thread....
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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In case anybody missed it, he's doing that shooting with "mere" 10x scopes.
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And very interesting they are. The S&B website says they have Mil-Dot reticles and CM dials. Nice match. They are set to be parallax free at 300 meters. No AO or side focus parallax features with their design drawbacks. I'm very impressed. Probably the only S&B I'd ever consider owning. E
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The loads have been worked up and tested for both rifles and are as follows:
.308(green rifle) 155gr Lapua scenar Lapua brass 45.5grs Varget Wolf(Tula)LRM primer 2.810" coal 2950fps.
.260(black rifle) 130gr Berger Hunting VLD Lapua brass 44.2grs H4350 Wolf(Tula)LRM primer 2.810" coal 3000fps.
Those are the Tula magnum primers correct? I have been playing with primers and been somewhat surprised at how one primer or another will tend to shoot measurably better in a particular load. Have been playing with 210Ms, BR2s and 215Ms. May have to try some of these, just want to confirm which ones you have been using.
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PRM,
Pretty sure he's using Wolf/Tula Magnum primers.
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Well how's this coming along, Pat? I think I'm gonna sell my Nontypical 300wsm and pick up something a little smaller. Lead me to water my friend. 260 or 308??
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Well how's this coming along, Pat? ..... Lead me to water my friend. 260 or 308?? +1 Do you find the Templar action upgrade worth the additional cost? If so why? From the outside looking in it appears the 700 is on the heels of the Templar. Also, what makes the Badger M5 assembly, in your opinion, better than a ADL/BDL setup? What advantages does it provide you over the latter two? Thanks
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I love the Templar on mine. Extremely smooth and reliable. M16 extractor. One piece bolt. Side bolt release. Hands down my favorite action.
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Well how's this coming along, Pat? I think I'm gonna sell my Nontypical 300wsm and pick up something a little smaller. Lead me to water my friend. 260 or 308?? This is just me and obviously I aint Pat but I see it as if most of your work is to 500 take your pick. If you're gonna work quite a bit @ 500 on out then I'd most certainly go 260. Dober
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I'm really leaning that way. Never gunned a 260 nor any other 6.5 for that matter. Have had a ton of 308s, currently have four. So.... might be time for a change.
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That's the spirit... Dober
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Well how's this coming along, Pat? ..... Lead me to water my friend. 260 or 308?? +1 Do you find the Templar action upgrade worth the additional cost? If so why? From the outside looking in it appears the 700 is on the heels of the Templar. Also, what makes the Badger M5 assembly, in your opinion, better than a ADL/BDL setup? What advantages does it provide you over the latter two? Thanks The Defiance is a much better action in all reguards,even though a 700 is a good platform to build on, the 1 pc bolt adds peace of mind when in the field and is ready to build on from the beginning!
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Thanks for the replies Cinch and Ackleyfan.
This thread has about pushed me over the edge for a Non-Typical or a faux version.
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I love the Templar action on my GAP also. Major improvement over a tuned Rem. IMO.
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I have no experience with the Templar action nor do I know it's costs. A Remington 700 action can have it's bolt handle secured with hex head screws. The extractor can be changed to any kind of hook style, but long expereince has shown that the stock Remington extractor is so strong it can rip the head off of a stuck case. Those that fail, are either broken, or improperly installed. They, the remington actions, have, with few modifications, been used in combat by both the US Marines and the US Army for alot of years now. They wouldn't keep'em if they didn't work. E
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Guys, I've been busy with coyote calls, coaching my little guys allstar team and it's been flat out nasty hot.....I promise to finish up this comparison when time allows...
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