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If a Copper yelled at me to disarm, what would be wrong with doin a bellyflop spread eagle and let them disarm ya?
I would NOT touch the gun I was concealing.
Gunner Same here. Suicide. But one can understand the confusion of someone who hasn't thought that scenario through in advance, being suddenly ordered at gunpoint to disarm. That being the case, ordering him to disarm at gunpoint, when his weapon was holstered, followed by plugging him full of holes when he complies, is murder, plain and simple.
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You'd get about as fair a trial as that "White Mexican" has a chance of getting trial by media. Looks like Zimmerman has done the smart thing and gone underground, perhaps skipping to South America where he'll blend right in. It's become clear that the system is trying to railroad an innocent man for political points, and no one is obliged to subject themselves to that process.
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If a Copper yelled at me to disarm, what would be wrong with doin a bellyflop spread eagle and let them disarm ya?
I would NOT touch the gun I was concealing.
Gunner Nothing at all. Anything but pointing it at the cop or other furtive movement toward it.
Keep your powder dry and stay frosty my friends.
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At Conceal Carry Class they stress that when a store's Rep asks you to leave you are to do so, signs or no signs. Supposed to avoid confrontations.
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You know damn well that I'm right! You try to dispose of the point I made using three words;"No,not right." Then you throw in a bunch of words having nothing to do with the point I made. Damn,you'd a made a good lawyer. ========== HUH? You asked "right"? and I said no,you weren't right as to that testimony. I didn't know you were trying to make a point other than your belief that testimony would be inadmissible. You didn't want me to give a layperson a lesson on the rules of evidence,did you?
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You know damn well that I'm right! You try to dispose of the point I made using three words;"No,not right." Then you throw in a bunch of words having nothing to do with the point I made. Damn,you'd a made a good lawyer. You nailed Isaac's (Bob's) style of debate perfectly.
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I'd divert from your flailing were I you,as well. From what is glaringly obvious as to your reading comprehension skills,I doubt you even read curdog's entire post much less understand it.
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That case has baffled me. How is he a white man to start with? Am I seeing a different person. Florida must be one F'ed up state. Explains a lot.
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Do you mean to say we have those stores in Texas? Fort Worth. About the same as Sam's as far as items go but up scale somewhat.
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At Conceal Carry Class they stress that when a store's Rep asks you to leave you are to do so, signs or no signs. Supposed to avoid confrontations. Agreed. As soon as an agent of the owner speaks for him in asking you to leave, every moment of delay thereafter is a moment of trespass. He was guilty of harmless trespass, however, and nothing more. Not a capital offense. Not by a long shot.
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Correct, a store is considered PRIVATE PROPERTY, not public. If you are asked to do something by an employee such as leave you are to do so. If you do not the police will be called to escort you off the property at the very least if not arrest you for trespass. Do as you're told, that's day one stuff.
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You'd get about as fair a trial as that "White Mexican" has a chance of getting trial by media. Looks like Zimmerman has done the smart thing and gone underground, perhaps skipping to South America where he'll blend right in. It's become clear that the system is trying to railroad an innocent man for political points, and no one is obliged to subject themselves to that process. ========== Good lord you're a dumbschit. He arrived back to Florida last night and is with his lawyer preparing to turn himself in by the 230 deadline. Done the smart thing and fleed? You would not be teaching kids if I lived in your part of Florida,that I assure you. You are one sick,idiot.
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At Conceal Carry Class they stress that when a store's Rep asks you to leave you are to do so, signs or no signs. Supposed to avoid confrontations. Agreed. As soon as an agent of the owner speaks for him in asking you to leave, every moment of delay thereafter is a moment of trespass. He was guilty of harmless trespass, however, and nothing more. Not a capital offense. Not by a long shot. And he wouldn't have been shot if he didn't go for his gun or point it at the officer.
Keep your powder dry and stay frosty my friends.
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Good lord you're a dumbschit. He arrived back to Florida last night and is with his lawyer preparing to turn himself in by the 230 deadline. Done the smart thing and fleed? You would not be teaching kids if I lived in your part of Florida,that I assure you. You are one sick,idiot.
Should the Jews have remained in Germany too, because the law said they had to? When the state is obviously plotting to destroy an innocent party, the innocent party has no obligation to remain. PS I hadn't heard that he had returned. Too bad for him. He's likely going to be railroaded now.
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At Conceal Carry Class they stress that when a store's Rep asks you to leave you are to do so, signs or no signs. Supposed to avoid confrontations. Agreed. As soon as an agent of the owner speaks for him in asking you to leave, every moment of delay thereafter is a moment of trespass. He was guilty of harmless trespass, however, and nothing more. Not a capital offense. Not by a long shot. ======== Another dumb-schit post. Did DD jump ahead of you on the 2012 KOTY running? He was committing a crime by carrying the gun while severely impaired;he threatened a store clerk while publically intoxicated and under the influence of schedule 2 and 3 narcotics,he made a aggressive gesture towards a officer with his gun after being ordered to get to the ground and not to touch his weapon. Harmless trespass? The dead dumb guy,hammered and on Morphine and Xanax had more sense than you. I wish you were there. The guy would have never been sho. They'd have all been too preoccupied laughing from watching the piss run down your pant's leg.
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And he wouldn't have been shot if he didn't go for his gun or point it at the officer.
Not sure that's at all an accurate description of what happened, but regardless you are right to the extent that you mean he was unwise in the extreme to move a hand towards his sidearm under those circumstances, despite being commanded at gunpoint to take hold of it. He should have disregarded that command. For all we know, however, he could have been shot for disregarding it too, which illustrates the problem with the conduct of the police in this situation.
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despite being ordered at gunpoint to take hold of it. ===========
You have the reading comprehension skills of a house plant.
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despite being ordered at gunpoint to take hold of it. ===========
You have the reading comprehension skills of a house plant. If one's sidearm is holstered, how is one to interpret the command to drop the weapon? Only one way I can think of, but I'd have disregarded that command and raised hands over my head as high as I could instead.
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If a Copper yelled at me to disarm, what would be wrong with doin a bellyflop spread eagle and let them disarm ya?
I would NOT touch the gun I was concealing.
Gunner Nothing at all. Anything but pointing it at the cop or other furtive movement toward it. Agreed. Gunner
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Concealed or open carry is encumbered by responsibilities. If you are going to carry you are responsible for, amoung other things, being neither inebriated or stupid. Carrying in either of these situations could bring the same outcome this poor stupid drunk brought upon himself.
No doubt, liberals will disagree. Responsibilities elude them.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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