#6581946 - 06/10/12 05:21 AM
what am i doing wrong????
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Registered: 11/07/09
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Loc: s.tex
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6mm shoots great with 3X9 50 mm leupy, took off leupy, put on 6.5x20 zeiss z-1000, varmit reticle,shoots like a shotgun ive checked every thing i can think of, re mounted scope checked for stress on scope, changed mounts
, then changed them back all work has been done to spec. changed back to leupy shoots great.what the hell am i doing wrong? what should i check?would like to use the zeiss, for p-dog shoot.rio7
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#6581966 - 06/10/12 05:32 AM
Re: what am i doing wrong????
[Re: RIO7]
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Registered: 06/12/09
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Loc: SD
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Is any part of the objective or flip caps if you have any, within a few thousandths of the barrel? I had a gun mysteriously have groups double in size, found the flip cap was just barely touching the barrel. Took the cap off and it shot normal again.
Edited by ruffcutt (06/10/12 02:03 PM)
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#6583010 - 06/10/12 12:25 PM
Re: what am i doing wrong????
[Re: RIO7]
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Campfire Tracker
Registered: 05/22/03
Posts: 5369
Loc: SW Montana
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RI07: I hope we can get the problem sorted out for you ASAP.
That Zeiss would be a wonderful optic in the Prairie Dog Towns.
And that brings me to this question - is the Zeiss new or has it been proven on other Rifles?
Can you take the time to "prove" that Zeiss on another "known" accuracy Rifle?
From what you have relayed so far I am guessing the Zeiss has something loose/unglued???
That would be unusual but sound possible in this instance.
Best of luck to you.
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VarmintGuy
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#6583434 - 06/10/12 03:38 PM
Re: what am i doing wrong????
[Re: VarmintGuy]
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varmitguy, this is a new out of the box scope. does not touch the barrel plenty of clearance, im useing a 2 piece mount timiney, i moved the scope rings closer toghther and it didnt make a differance, moved them out more nada,double checked the bases, heres, what i dont understand first shot bulls eye. then started to string out shots 1" high right next shot 1" higher right"and so it moved about 1" higher right with every shot. took scope off checked everything i could think of re mounted it now it shoots all over target with about 8" spread, took it off used different mounts think they are weaver, now its shooting about 6" spread took it off, put lupey back on shooting just under 3/4" for 5 shots 3 groups? hate to take a scope off one of my other rifles that shoots great to prove the scopes no good, then i have 2 screwed up rifles, im going to town in the morning and get a one piece mount and if that dont work im giong to send it back to ziess. rio7
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#6583512 - 06/10/12 04:14 PM
Re: what am i doing wrong????
[Re: RIO7]
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Registered: 02/04/11
Posts: 1109
Loc: Carbon Co. Wyoming
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RIO7, It sounds like your scope is defective...had a Leupold that did the same thing..I retuned it..something, I forget what, had come undone inside...I would get it checked out, why waste time and ammo..your faith in it is nil at this point...
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#6584221 - 06/10/12 08:11 PM
Re: what am i doing wrong????
[Re: RIO7]
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Campfire Guide
Registered: 10/13/08
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Ahem... You have already proven with the Leupold the gun is ok..... no need to remove ANOTHER good shooting scope from a rig to prove that, IMHO The scope that doesn't shoot well has something wrong with it, especially if you are using the same set of rings for both scopes.... Allen
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#6584498 - 06/10/12 10:43 PM
Re: what am i doing wrong????
[Re: RIO7]
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Registered: 11/04/07
Posts: 16911
Loc: A wash in the west.
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varmitguy, this is a new out of the box scope. does not touch the barrel plenty of clearance, im useing a 2 piece mount timiney, i moved the scope rings closer toghther and it didnt make a differance, moved them out more nada,double checked the bases, heres, what i dont understand first shot bulls eye. then started to string out shots 1" high right next shot 1" higher right"and so it moved about 1" higher right with every shot. took scope off checked everything i could think of re mounted it now it shoots all over target with about 8" spread, took it off used different mounts think they are weaver, now its shooting about 6" spread took it off, put lupey back on shooting just under 3/4" for 5 shots 3 groups? hate to take a scope off one of my other rifles that shoots great to prove the scopes no good, then i have 2 screwed up rifles, im going to town in the morning and get a one piece mount and if that dont work im giong to send it back to ziess. rio7 Had a buddy last year that got a new Zeiss 4.5-14x44mm Conquest last year failed right of the box Zeiss replaced it for him. Everyone has a bsd one make it through QC from time to time.
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#6584582 - 06/11/12 03:21 AM
Re: what am i doing wrong????
[Re: 17ACKLEYBEE]
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Registered: 11/07/09
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Loc: s.tex
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thanks for the comments, i was thinking the 2 piece mounts are putting a strain , or bind on this scope as its much longer than the leupy, and i need a one piece for another gun so i thought i would buy a one peice and try it with this scope and if that didnt work send scope back to zeiss. does that make sense?also im going p-dog shooting the end of june and thats what i bought the ziess for.rio7
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#6585383 - 06/11/12 10:55 AM
Re: what am i doing wrong????
[Re: RIO7]
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Campfire Kahuna
Registered: 06/18/05
Posts: 21303
Loc: Walla Walla USA / Zimbabwe
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Put the Loopy back on it if neccesasry for your PD shoot. Return the Euro scope for repair or return it over the counter for another if your retailer will allow. Quite clear that the scope is bad. The erector assembly is the culprit. An erector assembly retaining spring inside has come loose or was never put into the scope during assembly.
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#6585472 - 06/11/12 11:29 AM
Re: what am i doing wrong????
[Re: safariman]
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Registered: 11/07/09
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Loc: s.tex
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safariman,had to take a load of cattle to town this morning for the sale, so dropped them off and went local gun shop, and my buddy there and i put new rings and bases and ziess back on rifle, one last try. jhon didnt have another ziess varmit scope in shop or we would have traded out and probably will, if this dont work. its a 150 mile round trip to town so dont go a lot about once a month for food, its 115 deg. here today so will wait and shoot it in the morning.hope to meet your and your wife in new mexico , in july. rio7
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