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RL 17 boosted my velocity considerably in short mags
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I don't care what the chrono says...R-17 once beat up Chuck Norris, so that's enough for me.
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Yea, for all the slinging copper with my 284 down range to 500 yds. In anticipation, I took my old mulie buck at ~ 100 yds, not on the hill but down in the bottom among the cottonwoods. The 150-gr TTS at 2900 went "coast to coast" though, brisket to pubis. This rifle and R17 seem to be in the same Mutual Admiration club -- not that it was needed for this shot.
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RL-17 won't give you velocity gains in every application. But to say it won't in all applications is poppycock! ................Correct! Speed wise, RL17 has probably excelled down more 300 WSM bores than any other round. While it is primarily a short magnum powder, that`s not to say it won`t excel for faster speeds in the 270, 30-06 and with other standard rounds. Bullet speeds acquired depends on EACH individual bore.
28 Nosler,,,,300WSM,,,,338-378 Wby,,,,375 Ruger
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It works quite well in my 300Win Mag too.72.5grs of R-17 with a 165gr Speer Deep Curl gives me 3260fps one ragged hole groups.That same charge with 180gr Deep Curls pushes right along at 3210fps with nearly the same size group.
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As Bob Hagel would say"You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong."Good words of wisdom...............
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Just found this thread so sorry to bring up old wounds. Anyways, I think I have found another cartridge that RL-17 seems works very well in. It's a 338-06AI. Now I'm not claiming to get 150-200 fps gains over other "established" powders but there are definitely gains to be had. 65-90 fps with great accuracy is what I experinced using 210 and 225 gr bullets. If the accuracy hadn't come along with this gain in velocity I would not be writing this. Now, if a person checks a ballistic table, gains like these for most real world hunting situations make very little difference but when you can sneak that much more out of your cartridge and still have outstanding accuracy, who wouldn't take it and run. Cheers. I tried it as soon as it came out in my 338-06 Ackley, and didn't see any gain or improvement. H-4350 still wins by a landslide........
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Huh, no aalf I actually got between 75 and 140 fps gains but started to see signs of evil so backed off to more sane levels. Up until I tried this powder I too was using H4350.
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I have found out that my Wife's Roses love RL 17.Did not work so well in my rifles!!!
Its all right to be white!!
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Rule of thumb, about 1 fps per degree of temp change.
Did a ladder work up for shooting buddies 6.5x47L. Back in April.Temps were 48 to 55F 140g Berger Hybrid was running just under 2950 FPS. Good solid accuracy at 500 Yards. At the first 1000 yard match temps went from say 50 to 70 during the course of the day. All day long two thing happened. We had to take off "up" clicks, as the day got warmer. The warmer the day got. The more targets we missed. Higher temps took us out of the "node" and accuracy took a dump. Reloader 17. A good lawn fertilizer. dave
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From my TIKKA T3 Lite in 9.3 X 62, getting 100 fps more from RL-17 than RL-15 with the same 286 NPs. Less pressure and accuracy sub-MOA. "100 fps more" translates to 2546 fps. It's the only powder that will be used in my 9.3 X 62 going forward. Slower than RL-15 and faster than IMR4350 and H414. About perfect for 286s, I'd say. My COL is 3.36" with NPs. And, it's not a "short and fat" case as everyone knows. Cases last "forever". I could well believe it to be among the "best" powders for the .375 H&H. Bob www.bigbores.ca
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Dave,
In my tests with a .30-06 and 165's RL-17 didn't do very well at zero F., and it should be about right for that bullet weight.
Other people have had different results, but scenarshooter also had problems in cold weather. So it probably depends on the load, as with many powders.
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John,
We had 140g Berger Hybrids running sub 2 inch groups at 500 yards.At about 50 55 degrees.
Its a very clean powder.
Meters great.
As the temps climbed over the course of the day our accuracy went out the window.
Im thinking its the amount of change in temps.
If your looking at a 20 degree temp change over the course of a match.Im not sure how you can use the stuff.
Your claimimg problems at zero temps.
I think they need to get back to the lab with the stuff and try again.
I dont mind trying stuff and putting time in to figure stuff out.But i've seen enough.
dave
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