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I'll report on the .270WSM in a real rifle when I get my M70 so chambered up and running.
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When the 270WSM first came out, Winchester was saying 3350-3400fps with the 130ge bullets. I don't think hardly ANY factory rifles ever made it to those velocities, if any at all.
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This is my actual data from my Tikka T3s last weekend using a Pact chronograph. Temperature was approx. 70 degrees. Average velocity from 10 shot strings.
6.5x55: Norma factory with 120gr. BT. Factory velocity is listed at 860 m/s which converts to 2821 fps. My T3 averaged 2775 fps.
.308 Win. with barrel cut to 19 in.: Handload 165gr. Nosler BT using RL 15 powder. Nosler quotes 2820 fps. from a 24 in. barrel. My velocity average was 2601 fps.
30-06: Handload with 165gr. Nosler BT using H4350 powder. Nosler quotes 2872 fps. from a 24 in. barrel using 57.5 gr. powder. My load uses 58.0 gr. powder at a velocity of 2872 fps. Didn't realize the fps. number was the same till I put this info together.
This is the only time I've chronographed these loads from my rifles. Different conditions would I'm sure change the data. From this instance it would seem velocity from my T3s are running what they should be.
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That's great to here that most are getting normal speeds out of the T3. I still have to decide which rifle I want to go for . Thanks to all who have posted. Goodshot
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I can easily get into the mid 3200's with a 130 in my 24" .270 Win.
I don't doubt that. Mine is 3100 PLUS, in 22" and the Tikka is 22 7/16". I'm satisfied with 2" less bll length.
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My Tikka in 7mm-08 launches 140 Ballistic Tips at 2898. That was a couple of weeks ago, it was about 80* when I was shooting.
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If I have to, I'll gladly sacrifice a few fps for the tack-driving accuracy of my Tikka......
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Boy, I'm glad I don't have to worry about things like this. Things were better before the affordable chronograph. Both ammo manufacturers and hand loaders could claim any velocity and almost no one could prove them wrong. Ignorance was bliss.
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I think the number one cause of velocity loss is chronographs... I lost an average of 150fps on most my loads as soon as I bought one.....
You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
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Just so you guys understand, I am not a speed demon either. Accuracy is paramount , practice, practice, practice in hunting positions, not just off a bench. The only reason I brought his up is it makes little sense to me. I don't sweat over 100 fps......I rarely load Anything to max........I load for what shoots the best which in Most all my rifles is a touch under max. I own two Sako products, one T3 waiting to be shot and a Sako A7 in 270win that shoots great with 130 grain Sierra game kings. Enough said ! Goodshot
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All my Tikka's are safely shooting 75-100 fps faster than max load listed in Sierra, Nosler, and Hornady manuals.
Example: .223 shooting 80 gr Berger VLD...2875 fps. That's PUSHING an 80...
I should have just bought a [bleep] T3...
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To the poster getting 30-30 speed from an '06...you are doing something wrong. You got that right.
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So you just have to shoot hotter loads in a Tikka to get normal velocity?
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All rifles are not built the same. Some come from the factory with exceptional chamber to bore alignment and some do not. Exception chamber to bore alignment is key to exceptional and consistent accuracy with a large variety of loads. ( Hint) Exceptional chamber to bore alignment also produces less pressure. ( Hint #2 )
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Sako/Tikka laps their barrels and they tend to run out the tolerance so a 284 is really a 294 . Their barrels suck If their barrels suck, I'd love to see a good barrel shoot. Both of my tikkas shoot better than almost anything I've owned and I've owned some very pricey stuff. On a side note, any gun can shoot slower. I had a win m70 that shot 150fps less than it should have. Got pressure signs when I tried to run it up to where it should have been. Still killed animals the same.
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Sako/Tikka laps their barrels and they tend to run out the tolerance so a 284 is really a 294 . Their barrels suck Yep......I'd take a 284 barrel that shoots 3" moa any day over a 294 barrel that shoots 1/2" moa. If your willing to throw in a pretty wood stock and a pair of pink panties I'd go as far as 5" moa. Shod
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Sako/Tikka laps their barrels and they tend to run out the tolerance so a 284 is really a 294 . Their barrels suck Yep......I'd take a 284 barrel that shoots 3" moa any day over a 294 barrel that shoots 1/2" moa. If your willing to throw in a pretty wood stock and a pair of pink panties I'd go as far as 5" moa. Shod That's a load of horsechit anyway and anybody who's ever actually lapped a barrel will tell you so. It'd take damn near forever to remove that much steel by lapping.
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I have read and heard from various sources that some Tikka rifles record lower velocities than other rifles with the same length barrels. What do you Tikka owners say? From my experiences with Tikka I'd say whoever said that absolutely no friggin clue as to what they were saying! Dober
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I have read and heard from various sources that some Tikka rifles record lower velocities than other rifles with the same length barrels. What do you Tikka owners say? From my experiences with Tikka I'd say whoever said that absolutely no friggin clue as to what they were saying! Dober Ross Seyfried has no clue? My own experience over the chronograph with my own T3 told me exactly what Ross Seyfried said to be his experience is true. Both my T3 and Ross' were chambered for the .270WSM. Ross actually tested three different rifles chambered for that cartridge and found the T3 to be 200-250fps slower than the other two.
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