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Pretty standard pro-life advertisement, right? But:

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Read the eensy-weensy fine print down there in the lower right-hand corner of the picture.

Did you know such things existed? I certainly didn't.


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I read of an organization of persons born of rape, and of one such young man who became a medical student.

Makes you think.

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Until recently it seemed your mind was just fine, Barak. frown

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"Feminists For Life"

Does kinda make the mind go "tilt" doesn't it.



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Originally Posted by Archerhunter

"Feminists For Life"

Does kinda make the mind go "tilt" doesn't it.


Yup. At least they have a website and a Wikipedia entry...


"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain--that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." --Lysander Spooner, 1867
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"At least"

I don't wanna know what "at most" may be...

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Yeah, I still can't think that one through to any conclusion. I get stuck every time and either start laughing or shaking my head... usually both.
It's a head scratcher.




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The only argument for abortion is where the subject has the choice. A pregnant woman should be able to register her desire for one. Then, when the baby is, say, 10 years old, he can make the decision to be killed or not. ONLY the child should be able to make that decision because he's the ONLY one terminally affected by it. If anyone else makes it, it's murder.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The only argument for abortion is where the subject has the choice. A pregnant woman should be able to register her desire for one. Then, when the baby is, say, 10 years old, he can make the decision to be killed or not. ONLY the child should be able to make that decision because he's the ONLY one terminally affected by it. If anyone else makes it, it's murder.

I agree, except that I think 10 is a little early.

If the kid makes the decision to be killed, though, there's going to be a big question about restitution for all the time, effort, and expense invested in the kid to that point.


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Originally Posted by Paul39
I read of an organization of persons born of rape, and of one such young man who became a medical student.

Makes you think.

Paul


My wife's baby sister was raped. The product of that rape is in his final year of med school.


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It's up to the person who was raped, not to me or you.

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Originally Posted by Scott F
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I read of an organization of persons born of rape, and of one such young man who became a medical student.

Makes you think.

Paul


My wife's baby sister was raped. The product of that rape is in his final year of med school.


Like I said before...You're sister inlaw is an incredible and unique woman, please give her another hug for me and tell her so.


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Originally Posted by Cartod
It's up to the person who was raped, not to me or you.


Although I think all reasons for abortion are wrong I would have to agree with you on this one, Rape is such a violent and nasty thing!

I would not think ill of someone who had an abortion for such a reason.


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οΏ½ and so much for the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness οΏ½


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It makes me laugh how many here are so big on the bill of rights, yet many will want to tell someone besides themselves how to live their life. That is a serious problem in America....we have lost contact with the bill of rights and started deciding what is right, well opinions change over time and now we are be oming the nanny state.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag

Like I said before...You're sister inlaw is an incredible and unique woman, please give her another hug for me and tell her so.


She would wonder what you were thinking. She did not make the decision to save a life, in her mind the having the child was the only option.

BTW, her second child, a daughter, entered the NW School of Naturopathic Medicine this Fall.


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οΏ½ and so much for the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness οΏ½

I originally started this thread not to argue about abortion in cases of rape and incest but to share with the world what I'd discovered about the existence of the Feminists For Life; but I'm also surprised at the inconsistency of some here.

Are you pro-abortion? Okay, it makes perfect sense that you'd be particularly pro-abortion in the cases of rape and incest.

But if you're anti-abortion, then why are you anti-abortion, and how can that reasoning, whatever it is, possibly not apply in cases of rape and incest?

For purposes of full disclosure, I'm personally anti-abortion right down the line, but I have never seen a proposed law prohibiting abortion that I didn't think was either a horrible miscarriage of justice in itself or would lead to appalling unintended consequences.

I'd much rather see abortion dealt with through social stigma than through government action.


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Originally Posted by Barak
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"Feminists For Life"

Does kinda make the mind go "tilt" doesn't it.


Yup. At least they have a website and a Wikipedia entry...


Sue, Barak. Why not? Google "atheists for life." The pro-life movement is not just a religious issue. It's a moral issue so it's everyone's business, just like murder, rape, etc. etc.


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"Feminists For Life"

Does kinda make the mind go "tilt" doesn't it.


Yup. At least they have a website and a Wikipedia entry...


Sue, Barak. Why not? Google "atheists for life." The pro-life movement is not just a religious issue. It's a moral issue so it's everyone's business, just like murder, rape, etc. etc.

Sure, I understand. (You meant "Sure, Barak" above, right?) It's just that my understanding of the feminist viewpoint would be incompatible with an anti-abortion position. "Feminists For Life" feels to me like "Cowboy Action Shooters Against Guns" or "Environmentalists For Strip-Mining."


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Yep, those conceived by rape are no less a person than others. God didn't make a mistake in their conception, even if he permitted the evil act that caused it. God can bring blessings from the evil acts of mortals.

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Yes, thank you. I meant "sure."


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