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#7061141 - 11/10/12 Weapon light for my AR15???
NYH1 Offline
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Registered: 02/09/04
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I want to put a weapon light on my AR15. I have a quad rail with a front handle grip on it. I want to mount the light so it will be in the 3 o'clock position as I hold the carbine. I want to be able to turn the light on with a monetary switch on the back of the light by using the thumb of my left hand, which will be on the handle grip. Any ideas as to which lights I should look at? I don't have an unlimited budget so money is an issue. I need a light that'll work without breaking the bank. It doesn't have to be the latest and greatest, it just has to work. I'll take it off most of the time when I take my carbine to the range.

Thanks, NYH1. wink
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#7061169 - 11/10/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: NYH1]
TWR Offline
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Registered: 11/22/06
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Surefire G2LED or equivalent.

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#7061314 - 11/10/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: NYH1]
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Registered: 11/28/03
Posts: 12180
Loc: Georgia
I just went to Amazon and typed in TLR-1S, 105.00 I am sure its not the best but its a good one. I have it on my Colt.
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#7062271 - 11/10/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: jimmyp]
NYH1 Offline
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Thanks guys!

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#7062414 - 11/10/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: NYH1]
Steve_in_PA Offline
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Registered: 11/09/12
Posts: 52
Loc: Pennsylvania
Surefire 6PX LED. The one I have is 200 lumens, but I have heard the newer ones are rated at 350 lumens.

My light rides in an Elzetta mount which puts the light at 6 o'clock which is where I prefer it.

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#7062494 - 11/10/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: Steve_in_PA]
timbo762 Offline
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Registered: 09/09/12
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Loc: Lake Havasu, AZ
I have a Streamlight TLR-1 mounted that way on my shot gun, and have been quite happy. Easy on and off with no function issues what so ever.
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#7062904 - 11/10/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: timbo762]
LWILLIAMS Offline
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Registered: 02/22/07
Posts: 290
Loc: Wyoming
I run surefire and cannot complain at all. They always work and with LED bulbs the battery life is pretty good.

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#7064144 - 11/11/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: TWR]
pira114 Offline
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Registered: 01/03/11
Posts: 4831
Loc: Sierra Nevadas, Ca.
Originally Posted By: TWR
Surefire G2LED or equivalent.


It's what I used to run. Had no complaints. But switched to the G2X and love it even more. Can't beat it for the price.
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#7064147 - 11/11/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: pira114]
Captain Offline
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Registered: 06/20/04
Posts: 440
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I bought about five Surefire G-2 lights in the LED version and they work well. I think Surefire has gone on to a next generation version recently. It is possible to have too bright a light for indoor work as you will get some reflection from light colored walls directed back towards you the operator that can be disconcerting. I have not noticed this to be the case normally outdoors where more is somewhat better. Usually incandescent bulbs are more fragile and not as long lasting as LED and when switched off they have a tell-tale glow for a second that can give away your direction of movement to the opposition.


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#7064286 - 11/11/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: Captain]
jimmyp Online   content
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Registered: 11/28/03
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Loc: Georgia
big difference in price between the Streamlight and surefire models. Is the "made in the USA" worth the extra?
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#7064694 - 11/11/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: jimmyp]
TWR Offline
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Registered: 11/22/06
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I thought both were made in the USA but as long as its not china, I wouldn't have a problem with either company.

I do have both companies lights and batteries. My newest light is Streamlights new Super TAC X. It's a handheld light that is the brightest I've ever seen.

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#7067271 - 11/12/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: TWR]
jimmyp Online   content
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Registered: 11/28/03
Posts: 12180
Loc: Georgia
I am curious why their is such a big price difference. Insight Technologies is in the middle price wise.
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#7073903 - 11/14/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: jimmyp]
JustOneGunner Offline
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Registered: 03/01/08
Posts: 1798
Loc: Minnesota
TLR-1, but I wouldn't mount it 3 o' clock...

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#7074080 - 11/14/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: TWR]
Oklahoma Offline
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Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 1978
Loc: SE Okla
Originally Posted By: TWR
Surefire G2LED or equivalent.


looking on Optics Planet I see that there are several Surefire G2 light's so which G2 would you recommend the ZL, ZX, D, X Pro, X Tactical????? and which mount???
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#7074140 - 11/14/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: Oklahoma]
TWR Offline
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Registered: 11/22/06
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Evidently, sure fire quit making the cheap g2 nytrolon led light. For the price I'd get a Sreamlight TLR1. The g2 led I have were only $60 and my suggestion was intended for a bargain priced light.

The mount I use is a Viking Tactics mount that runs about $25.

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#7079761 - 11/16/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: TWR]
pira114 Offline
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Registered: 01/03/11
Posts: 4831
Loc: Sierra Nevadas, Ca.
Originally Posted By: TWR
Evidently, sure fire quit making the cheap g2 nytrolon led light. For the price I'd get a Sreamlight TLR1. The g2 led I have were only $60 and my suggestion was intended for a bargain priced light.

The mount I use is a Viking Tactics mount that runs about $25.


It's called the G2X now. 200 lumens instead of the 170 (I think) of the plain G2. Other than that, it's the same. Well, except price. The X is around $90. But I have done a few google searches in the last couple months and you can still find new in box G2s. Just have to search. And they're cheaper now. Think I saw one for $45.
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#7080413 - 11/16/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: pira114]
NYH1 Offline
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Registered: 02/09/04
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Loc: Central New Yorkistan, USA
Thanks guys.

NYH1.
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#7136117 - 12/02/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: NYH1]
eh76 Offline
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Registered: 12/17/06
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You missed the Surefire cyber Monday sale ?
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#7136150 - 12/02/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: eh76]
varmintsinc Offline
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Registered: 06/25/04
Posts: 4685
Loc: MT
Do you want it for indoors or outdoor applications? I am not a fan of to much light indoors. Using an LED I find anything over 120-150 lumens to give to much back wash that will impair the operator more than it will serve any addititional means of blinding a suspect. Going outdoors I dont mind anything with as many lumens as you want to go.

I bought a 500 lumen light when it first came out until I used it at night in a house. There was so much light washing off the wall that my partners said it was not allowed indoors anymore.

Im also a fan of the streamlight TLR mounted at the 6 o clock position.
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#7137988 - 12/03/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: varmintsinc]
NYH1 Offline
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Registered: 02/09/04
Posts: 1647
Loc: Central New Yorkistan, USA
varmintsinc, it will be used for indoor use. I think I'll end up going with a Streamlight TLR Light. I'm going to mount it anywhere from the 3 o'clock to 9 o'clock position, as I hold the weapon (3 o'clock would be mid right side, 9 o'clock would be mid left side). I'll have to figure that out when I get the light.

I've never used a weapon mounted light before so I'll have to see what feels best for me. I'm going to get one for one of my Glocks too.

Thanks for the help, NYH1.
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#7138063 - 12/03/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: jimmyp]
JustOneGunner Offline
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Registered: 03/01/08
Posts: 1798
Loc: Minnesota
First off, if you're using a chicken choker grip, you should consider using thumb over bore. It's a vastly superior technique.

Regardless, TLR-1 is hard to beat for value, X300 if you want the best. Offset adapter of your choice.

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#7139040 - 12/03/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: JustOneGunner]
liliysdad Offline
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Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 1352
I use a Surefire 600C Scout Light on my rifle. I tried an X300, which I use on my pistol, but the Scout has more throw, and the switch design is better, for me, on a rifle.

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#7141823 - 12/04/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: JustOneGunner]
NYH1 Offline
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Registered: 02/09/04
Posts: 1647
Loc: Central New Yorkistan, USA
Originally Posted By: JustOneGunner
First off, if you're using a chicken choker grip, you should consider using thumb over bore. It's a vastly superior technique.

Regardless, TLR-1 is hard to beat for value, X300 if you want the best. Offset adapter of your choice.

JustOneGunner, not really sure what "chicken choker grip" is. As for using my thumb over the bore, I've never tried that. I went from having the regular carbine hand guard to a drop-in quad rail with a Troy aluminum front grip mounted about halfway down the rail. I like this setup. My next setup will be a little lighter. I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with a TLR-1 light. I might get one for my Glock G22 too. Going to figure it out after the holidays.

NYH1.
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#7141873 - 12/04/12 Re: Weapon light for my AR15??? [Re: NYH1]
JustOneGunner Offline
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Registered: 03/01/08
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Loc: Minnesota
Gripping with your thumb under the barrel/around your foregrip, I mean; I inferred that from how you described using your thumb to actuate a 3 o' clock light.

Short version: Having the weight of the forend on top of your hand is worse than having it in your hand for a fighting rifle. Skeletal support is great for standing comps, but for multiple targets and recoil mitigation, thumb over bore (or alternatively, running your thumb parallel but still above the boreline) is faster and better for transitioning and keeping impulse to a minimum. Rhodesians used it to great effect with FALs.

Before you dismiss it as a mallninja newfangled gimmick, give it a shot. laugh

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