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Interesting story here. Living in the city and owning three dogs that bark at squirrels, I had to cure the problem. Neighbors complaining....I used some shorts and found them too loud, then some subsonics and still too loud. Afraid the police would come by. A store clerk sold me the ticket, as he claimed, and I went to the rifle range to use a chrono and sight the 22 Marlin Semiauto in. Not enough power to blow the bolt back and GET THIS....Muzzle vel. were 560-570 fps. With a 4 X scope @ 50-100 feet I drop them out of the trees with a head shot. Aim at the eye and it's all over. Only problem is I have to be careful pulling the bolt back as the shorter cartridge doesn't want to feed easily. The BIG POINT here is there is less noise than a pellet gun and deadly accurate with a scope. On longer shots like 100' I can watch the lead fly through the air but penetration is lacking. I've knocked squirrels off power lines with a chest shot and the chest has a bit of skin missing and the squirrel is dazed but still alive. Amazing how a squirrel can get blown into the air, fall 40 feet to the asphalt and still have the guts to get up and run away. I'd be in the hospital if it had been me !! Has anyone done tests on the 22 shorts and caps for vel and sound ??
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Try the CCI .22 CB Shorts. They are MUCH quieter than anything else I've used. Now, I use them in a Win. single-shot, too. They are super accurate out of that rifle, and kill all out of proportion to their size/velocity. Hundreds of squirrels over the years, and 4 groundhogs just this past summer. Keep the range under 40-50 yards, and put it to the head, and you've got a dead critter. Sounds like a great reason to get another .22, btw. Like one of the little thumbhole-stock .22 Chipmunk single-shots, topped with an AO scope. Hmmm... I think I just found a use for the Simmon AO that came on my new .22-250... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Be careful to assure yourself that the bullet leaves the barrel every shot. I was shooting some Aguilla subsonic longs and one didn't exit the barrel. I noticed it, so no great harm. Don't know what would happen if another were fired behind it , but I bet it wouldn't be good.
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Aguila brand makes one that contains no gunpowder and is rated at maybe 500 ft. Even quiter. The box of ammo I am using makes a little noise out of a long barrel pistol but nothing out of a long barrel rifle. They are higher in cost but are even quiter then the cci's. I use a cheap lazer on my rifle for nights and it works on the varmints in the water as the water diffuses the light and it gets bright when on a solid object like a nutria head. I use them on a 100 foot lot with a river or resaca in the back which brings out night time varmints.
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Savage Crackshot! Dang, what a great ....tiny.... rifle! Shoots anything you put in it very well!
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I've always opted for the cci cb longs for pest around the house. Quieter than my pellet rifle and MUCH more powerful. I won't tell you what all kind of critters I've killed with them, suffice it to say, they will do the trick if bullet placement is paramount.
I also don't have the problems associated with shooting short cases along with long cases. The cb long case is the same length case as the long rifle. So the chamber suffers no adverse scoring effects - if they exist.
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No such bad juju exists if you clean the crud from the chamber after shooting shorts in a LR chamber before going back to shooting LRs.
BTW - the long case is just a tad shorter than a LR case. Not very much, but just a tad shorter.
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I know what will happen Idarado, From personal experience. You will have a "ringed" barrel. This happend to me when shooting remington cb's. I was at the range and had to wear ear plugs and didnt notice the sound difference of the weak round. My advice is dont use remington cb,s. I dont know if they are even available any more. But then again my experience with any kind od remington rimfire round has been bad.
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Interesting story here. Living in the city and owning three dogs that bark at squirrels, I had to cure the problem. Neighbors complaining....I used some shorts and found them too loud, then some subsonics and still too loud. Afraid the police would come by. A store clerk sold me the ticket, as he claimed, and I went to the rifle range to use a chrono and sight the 22 Marlin Semiauto in. Not enough power to blow the bolt back and GET THIS....Muzzle vel. were 560-570 fps. With a 4 X scope @ 50-100 feet I drop them out of the trees with a head shot. Aim at the eye and it's all over. Only problem is I have to be careful pulling the bolt back as the shorter cartridge doesn't want to feed easily. The BIG POINT here is there is less noise than a pellet gun and deadly accurate with a scope. On longer shots like 100' I can watch the lead fly through the air but penetration is lacking. I've knocked squirrels off power lines with a chest shot and the chest has a bit of skin missing and the squirrel is dazed but still alive. Amazing how a squirrel can get blown into the air, fall 40 feet to the asphalt and still have the guts to get up and run away. I'd be in the hospital if it had been me !! Has anyone done tests on the 22 shorts and caps for vel and sound ?? I know I'm reviving a very old thread here, but am I the only one in amazement that this fellow is shooting upwards with .22 longs and shorts in a city environment and talks about shooting squirrels on power lines? Man, am I glad I don't live near him!
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Thats very interesting...do you think that .22 cb shorts could take out a coon with a headshot at may 25-30'?
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Beaver as well but the shot should be pretty square to the skull.
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Thats very interesting...do you think that .22 cb shorts could take out a coon with a headshot at may 25-30'? Yes.
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I would use a good 22 cal pellet rifle. I have made kills out to 40 yards with mine on squirrels.
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I only shoot yard critters within a safe environment myself, but I've abandoned CCI CB Shorts for their Quiet Long Rifles and here's why:
Been thumping varmints in the back yard for years with the CB Shorts, mostly with head pops, but now and then I miss one at 30 yards or so. Few weeks ago, was double checking zero at 25 yards, when another club member gave me a box of the CCI Quiet LRs to try.
Rifle is zeroed with Mini Mags. The CB Shorts hit about 2" below zero @ 25 yards. The Quiet LRS hit dead-smack on zero at 25 yards and to my ears, are no louder than the CB Shorts are.
Case closed. Now all I need is another varmint out back and see how things go?
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I know somebody (we won't mention any names....) who killed a beaver with a .22 Long CB when it was cutting down all the trees in a neighboring creek and using them to dam the creek, flooding several of "this person's" neighbors' formerly dry property. Used a Winchester Model 67, I'm told.
Same unknown guy killed a family of woodchucks who were living under his woodshed and eating up all his vegetable garden, same gun and load. No complaints from neighbors.
(Just as an aside, has anybody every noticed how fast those little wood piglets GROW? One day they're hamster-sized and three days later they are snorkin' porkers! Woodchuck mother's milk must be some stuff!!!!)
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I only shoot yard critters within a safe environment myself, but I've abandoned CCI CB Shorts for their Quiet Long Rifles and here's why:
Been thumping varmints in the back yard for years with the CB Shorts, mostly with head pops, but now and then I miss one at 30 yards or so. Few weeks ago, was double checking zero at 25 yards, when another club member gave me a box of the CCI Quiet LRs to try.
Rifle is zeroed with Mini Mags. The CB Shorts hit about 2" below zero @ 25 yards. The Quiet LRS hit dead-smack on zero at 25 yards and to my ears, are no louder than the CB Shorts are.
Case closed. Now all I need is another varmint out back and see how things go? Please let us know how those CCI Quiet-22's work out on the vermin attacking your yard.  I haven't killed anything with them, but those 'CB longrifle' rounds have been damn impressive! As long as CCI keeps making them (in this era of Barry Hussain (  ) and scarce ammo!). Btw, Henne (or other similar name) is a company that makes a tool for reshaping .22 rimfire bullets (on unfired whole rounds) before shooting them. With a flattened meplat on the Quiet-22's, wonder how much more effective they might be?
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I have recently switched from other loads the the new Remington CeeBee LR HP for yard varmints. Kills far better than any solid point, and deadly accurate in my rifles. I won't go back to any of the CB shorts or longs from CCI or Remington. I am mostly shooting ground squirrels ( "gophers" ) with them but also have found them just barely adequate for crows with body shots. All shooting within 30 yds or so.
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Excellent CnB. I'm aware of the Remington CBee's. Like all Remington RF ammo I wish they were cleaner, but oh well! The Remington CBee is basically a LongRifle CB round, advertised as reaching 740fps MV, and 40fpe at the muzzle with a 33grn hollow point (Yellow Jacket type) bullet. With the bullet expanding! The new CCI Quiet-22 is essentially a 'CB LongRifle.' Like the CCI CB shorts and longs the Quiet-22 propels its bullet at 710fps MV, but generates 44 foot-pounds ME with its 40grn round nose lead bullet. I haven't killed anything with either one, altho both do a lot to better utilize a LR chamber, than the previous shorter CB's. From a 16inch M10/22 barrel, both are also fairly quiet! Paid $30/brick back in September last year. Now can't find any!
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I can't believe some dumbphuck is lofting .22 bullets up into the air in the city and all the other dumbphucks are telling him what other .22 shells to try. Those bullets are going to come to earth somewhere. I'm surprised the dumb SOB hasn't shot out any windows or put anybody in the hospital yet.
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Note: This thread is from 2006. That's 7 YEARS ago. Maybe the OP has changed his habits of shooting targets at elevated locations without a backstop. I actually have problems shooting squirrels way up in trees in the middle of the woods.
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