#7096212 - 11/20/12 10:30 PM
Re: This is someone's Holy Grail Model 70
[Re: boltman]
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Campfire Guide
Registered: 05/25/11
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Loc: Oregon
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I see the auction has been relisted and the bidding is about $400 more than the end of the previous auction. It's sort of like someone has a gun for sale, they show it to you and you ask, "what do you want for it?" And they don't answer you...  I think a lot of guys are hiding a super inflated reserve and listing a gun on auction to get an "appraisal" by the buying public. Auction ends, stick it back in the safe with a copy of the auction for the wife/widow to help with liquidation later. Lends a degree of credibility to a rifle's value for insurance purposes too, don't you think? I won't even waste my time on a hidden reserve auction for these reasons. I hesitated to expound on this in public, but I urge you tempted to use some scruples and resist this tactic.
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#7097269 - 11/21/12 09:24 AM
Re: This is someone's Holy Grail Model 70
[Re: Fireball2]
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Registered: 08/12/10
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Loc: Orygun
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I see the auction has been relisted and the bidding is about $400 more than the end of the previous auction. It's sort of like someone has a gun for sale, they show it to you and you ask, "what do you want for it?" And they don't answer you... I think a lot of guys are hiding a super inflated reserve and listing a gun on auction to get an "appraisal" by the buying public. Auction ends, stick it back in the safe with a copy of the auction for the wife/widow to help with liquidation later. Lends a degree of credibility to a rifle's value for insurance purposes too, don't you think? I won't even waste my time on a hidden reserve auction for these reasons. I hesitated to expound on this in public, but I urge you tempted to use some scruples and resist this tactic. Interesting concept and there may be some truth to it. I've often wondered the same thing myself...
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#7097423 - 11/21/12 10:18 AM
Re: This is someone's Holy Grail Model 70
[Re: bsa1917hunter]
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Registered: 07/11/03
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Another common technique, or tactic or ploy (take your pick) with reserve auctions is to have one or more shills bid it up to just short of the reserve. An intrepid bidder sees what looks like a lot of bidding activity and this helps him believe the gun is actually worth that much. He enters his bid and the reserve is tripped and surprise, surprise, no one bids after him. He becomes the, "winner"  Many auctions have what looks like a lot of bids when in fact there is only one actual bid  Caveat Emptor.
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#7107017 - 11/24/12 10:04 AM
Re: This is someone's Holy Grail Model 70
[Re: boltman]
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Registered: 03/01/05
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Loc: Maryland
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I see the auction has been relisted and the bidding is about $400 more than the end of the previous auction. It's sort of like someone has a gun for sale, they show it to you and you ask, "what do you want for it?" And they don't answer you... Seems like a big waste of time for everyone. 
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#7122754 - 11/28/12 06:48 PM
Re: This is someone's Holy Grail Model 70
[Re: lauren]
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I see the seller shut the auction down early... someone here successful with making an offer?
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#7122996 - 11/28/12 08:10 PM
Re: This is someone's Holy Grail Model 70
[Re: boltman]
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Registered: 08/12/10
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Loc: Orygun
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Yeah, I told him "GFY", he must have conceded.....
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#7146727 - 12/05/12 08:38 AM
Re: This is someone's Holy Grail Model 70
[Re: Bushmaster1313]
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Registered: 04/20/04
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Local guy here in town has an original like that one that is pretty pristine.. claims his grand dad bought it new in 1941, and used it for ALL of his hunting needs... from Elk down to deer... it has a 6 power early "Alaskan" scope mounted on top...can't remember if it is a Lyman or Leupold... He sure loves to run into me at the range, so he can have someone drool over it... he no longer hunts, just collects rifles and restores them, mainly Military Surplus stuff... The Model 70 is chambered in 220 Swift....
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