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There are not very many affordable factory rifles in this caliber. There are two Remington 700 SPS available:
Remington 700 SPS #85585, weight 7.62 lbs.

Remington 700 SPS Long Range #85600, weight 8.75 lbs.

Here is my real world question, "Does the heavy contour barrel of the #85600 make that much different?"

I want to put together a long range, 800 yard gun.

In the beginning, I have a Leupold 4.5-14 x 50 CDS to place on it. I also have a Leupold Mark 4 6.5-20 x 50 TMR rectile scope.

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4 just a belly gun I could go with the heavier rig. But for an all around including hunting no ma doubt I'd go with the lighter rig. Still be around 9 lbs all up and ready to rock which is plenty heavy for good shooting and not too heavy for porting around.

Given a choice I'd go 3-10 but tween the two you mentioned I'd go with the 4-14.

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Don't buy a silly STW. A 7mm Rem Mag IS an 800yd rifle with the right bullets. A Sendero just might be accurate enough to hit something at that range, an SPS? It ain't happening. All you'd be buying is an action to throw money at.

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Big green [bleep] canned the STW when they came out with their Ultra Mag.

So you're either looking at the Ultra or the 7 mag in those two models......

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Originally Posted by Take_a_knee
Don't buy a silly STW. A 7mm Rem Mag IS an 800yd rifle with the right bullets. A Sendero just might be accurate enough to hit something at that range, an SPS? It ain't happening. All you'd be buying is an action to throw money at.


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Jordo I'd love to grab a SPS Varm in 7 RM and punch it, are you ready for this Mashburn Super. Hard to believe but true eh...grin

My oh my how I would love to see them bring out the SPS Varm in .260.....

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Not into whizzing contests, but IMO, except for Dober, the above comment generators were pretty clueless...

So from someone who has an STW, here are my observations..

My STW is a DM-B, SS, that I spun the factory BBL off (24"), and replaced it with a factory takeoff in 7mag (SS, 26"), and had it punched out to 7STW. So it is a STD Rem mag contour.

Now have Karl perform his magic, didn't hurt, but this gun with a factory tube shoots 160AB or 160 Partitions into one ragged hole...and that isn't BS either...

This gun prints them just under an inch at 300...

So, I dare anyone to say I can't hit an 800 yard target, with a 160AB starting off at 3200.

The STW really pulls away from the 7mag with heavier bullets. If you are planning on shooting 140's, stick with a 7mag.

Shoot 160's+...get the 7STW.

Flame on.

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Amen to that Tony, a rig doesn't have to be a lachubwa (heavy weight) to shoot well at long range. My 7 lb .260 will do things at long range that will drive me nuts when I try to better it with a lachubwa rig.

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After owning 3 7 Rem Mags and then again another 7 STW. STW all the way. Way superior to the 7RM.

The SPS is plenty accurate out of the box and all you need without going to a heavy weight.
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SU-The Green Machine that you had was one of the nicer Big 7's I've ever seen!

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I like 150gr Noslers from my STW.Good round and bullet

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I've mainly used the 150 NBT out of my Mashburn. By the time I got to shooting the Bergs in it the throat was way roasted and it wouldn't do it's thing with that bullet.

I have a 7 WSM in the making and I'll most likely have it set up for the 168 Berg.

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Been shooting the 7mm NBT this year but haven't connected on an animal as of yet.But man they do shoot.The 150gr Partition on the other hand has been a very positive bullet from my STW.

My last kill was a moose in Sept from a 150gr E Tip and the 300 Win.Another positive bullet...imo

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Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
Jordo I'd love to grab a SPS Varm in 7 RM and punch it, are you ready for this Mashburn Super. Hard to believe but true eh...grin

My oh my how I would love to see them bring out the SPS Varm in .260.....

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Haha, MSM??! I'm shocked!

If the SPS Varmint was available in .260, then I likely wouldn't own a .243AI right now. It'd be .260 or .260AI instead.

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Course they'd most like dump a 10 twist or something like that...<g>

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
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Don't buy a silly STW. A 7mm Rem Mag IS an 800yd rifle with the right bullets. A Sendero just might be accurate enough to hit something at that range, an SPS? It ain't happening. All you'd be buying is an action to throw money at.


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I love the Fire, where every single rifle on the rack at the local Sportsman's Whorehouse is a bonafide tack driver. The only problem is I've looked at several factory remlin/freedrom grope barrels of late, and only one (a 5R 308) had a proper crown. Just sayin'.

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I've not owned a 700 that wouldn't consistently shoot under an inch, but that's probably because I don't cry about them having a rough bore or less than Bench Rest quality crown, and I just shoot 'em and find loads that work. I'd hang pics of what some other newer 700s have been doing, but that might just get ugly.

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Originally Posted by Tanner
I've not owned a 700 that wouldn't consistently shoot under an inch,


Either you are too ignorant to know what actually constitutes an MOA rifle, or you REALLY oughta be buyin' more lottery tickets.

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It's not luck.

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In checking around the heavy contour barrel cost about $200 more, not realy a big deal.

Another thought was to buy a 7mm Rem Mag and have it reamed out to 7mm STW.


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