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#7196400 - 12/17/12 05:33 PM My model 29 locked up
McInnis Offline
Campfire Ranger

Registered: 11/20/04
Posts: 1625
Loc: Cheyenne, WY
I've had a S&W new model 29 for a year now, maybe 400 rounds through it at the most. I went to the gun range Saturday and after about 15 rounds the thing locked up tight. On the way home I dropped it by the gunshop I bought it from. Neither the owner nor me could see what was wrong with it. It has an internal lock, but we locked and unlocked it to no avail.

Then today the gunsmith there called and said it was fixed. When I asked him what he found he said that opening on the end of the ejector rod was "mushroomed" like someone had hit it with a hammer. It was binding to the little pin that it normally rotates around (the pin that pulls back to release the cylinder).

I am totally confused by what could have happened. If the revolver had been locked up when I took it out of the holster I guess I would just have to blame myself for somehow doing the damage while handling it, but I had put 15 rounds through it before it happened.

Anyone ever had anything like this happen? Any ideas?

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#7196494 - 12/17/12 05:47 PM Re: My model 29 locked up [Re: McInnis]
tjm10025 Offline
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Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 10108
Loc: Central IN

Can't tell by your post if you bought this new, new to you, or a "new model."

If you bought it second hand, maybe somebody did hit it with a hammer to knock out a stuck case, like your gunsmith said. These rods will sometimes unscrew a little bit under recoil, causing a bind as it moves forward.

Seen it, and talked to my gunsmith about it, too.
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#7196529 - 12/17/12 05:54 PM Re: My model 29 locked up [Re: tjm10025]
vbshootinrange Offline
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Registered: 02/04/01
Posts: 5936
Loc: RETIRED in Oregon, USA
Yep,

Had a 629 Mtn. gun do the same thing.

Never did figure out "where" the burr came from, but stoning it off WORKED! It never locked up again.

Mine was pre-lock. Lost faith in it and traded it off....BAD mistake!

Virgil B.

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#7196644 - 12/17/12 06:16 PM Re: My model 29 locked up [Re: vbshootinrange]
McInnis Offline
Campfire Ranger

Registered: 11/20/04
Posts: 1625
Loc: Cheyenne, WY
It was NIB when I bought it last December.

So Virgil, you said there was a burr - did it lock up all at once like mine?

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#7196695 - 12/17/12 06:25 PM Re: My model 29 locked up [Re: McInnis]
Oregon45 Offline
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Registered: 08/19/06
Posts: 9527
Loc: Oregon
If the ejector rod was partially unscrewed (and this happens all the time; I check them each time I clean a S&W), then it may have battered against the front of the ejector rod housing under recoil. That could cause the tip of the ejector rod to "mushroom" as your gunsmith described.

I have had a few S&W N-frames "lock up" because the ejector rods have partially unscrewed. It is just something to check as regular maintenance.

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#7197016 - 12/17/12 07:35 PM Re: My model 29 locked up [Re: Oregon45]
FWP Offline
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Registered: 10/29/08
Posts: 87
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: Oregon45
I have had a few S&W N-frames "lock up" because the ejector rods have partially unscrewed. It is just something to check as regular maintenance.


I have had it happen with K frames and frequently with my Model 63 J frame.

When you pick it up ask the gunsmith to show you how to correct it and if it happens again you can fix it in the field.

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#7197038 - 12/17/12 07:39 PM Re: My model 29 locked up [Re: Oregon45]
McInnis Offline
Campfire Ranger

Registered: 11/20/04
Posts: 1625
Loc: Cheyenne, WY
Quote:
If the ejector rod was partially unscrewed (and this happens all the time


I'll bet that's it. Good advice. Although I regularly check the side plate screws for tightness, never even thought to check the ejector rod for tightness.

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#7197046 - 12/17/12 07:41 PM Re: My model 29 locked up [Re: McInnis]
The_Real_Hawkeye Offline
Campfire Oracle

Registered: 06/12/02
Posts: 68487
Loc: Northern Florida
Originally Posted By: McInnis
I've had a S&W new model 29 for a year now, maybe 400 rounds through it at the most. I went to the gun range Saturday and after about 15 rounds the thing locked up tight. On the way home I dropped it by the gunshop I bought it from. Neither the owner nor me could see what was wrong with it. It has an internal lock, but we locked and unlocked it to no avail.

Then today the gunsmith there called and said it was fixed. When I asked him what he found he said that opening on the end of the ejector rod was "mushroomed" like someone had hit it with a hammer. It was binding to the little pin that it normally rotates around (the pin that pulls back to release the cylinder).

I am totally confused by what could have happened. If the revolver had been locked up when I took it out of the holster I guess I would just have to blame myself for somehow doing the damage while handling it, but I had put 15 rounds through it before it happened.

Anyone ever had anything like this happen? Any ideas?
You need to stop taking hammers to your ejector rods. They're meant to be operated with the thumb or the palm.
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#7197421 - 12/17/12 09:24 PM Re: My model 29 locked up [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]
Bushwacker Offline
Campfire Guide

Registered: 08/15/03
Posts: 2741
Loc: Colorado
That happening actually worked to my benefit. The model 58 I have was doing the same thing so the guy was selling it cheap. Took if home and found that the ejector rod was mushroomed and the lock at the front of the ejector housing was gummed up and couldn't spring back out of the way likes it's supposed to. Drifted out the pin, cleaned it up and stoned the mushroom on the ejector rod and no problem with this gun since.
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#7198143 - 12/18/12 07:00 AM Re: My model 29 locked up [Re: Bushwacker]
bfrshooter Offline
Campfire Regular

Registered: 03/11/09
Posts: 865
Loc: Jefferson county, WV
Actually it is the pin in the center of the cylinder that is pushed with the thump piece to unlock the front of the cylinder.
It is too soft and heavy recoil will peen it. It is inertia. One reason to not shoot heavy bullets.
The pin is in the center of the extracting rod.
The only way to open the gun is by using a hunk of wood on the thumb piece and tapping it. Then you must remove the cylinder and take it apart to get to the pin. LEFT HAND THREAD on the extractor rod.

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