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Many of us loose sight of the fact that a rifle scope is a "sight" and not a photographic or viewing only device. Really great glass (highly corrected) is nice, but not absolutely necessary, since we're not taking photos or using for extended time viewing. A guy in the woods doesn't need great "1000yd" resolution. Good enough is good enough. What is most important is mechanical reliability, and a scope with a good track record mechanically AND fits your pocketbook will be your best choice. While certainly not the rule, but rather an exception, there are times when you need to have that "1000 yd resolution" to pick your target out of a crowd. Easy enough to identify the trophy animal with a good bino, but under adverse conditions (i.e., low light) a lesser scope might not be able to discern what you could find in your binos. This is just one example of an advantage to having quality glass on your rifle. Care to share the specifics of your personal experience where this has been a 'deal breaker' or even mattered at all?
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Many of us loose sight of the fact that a rifle scope is a "sight" and not a photographic or viewing only device. Really great glass (highly corrected) is nice, but not absolutely necessary, since we're not taking photos or using for extended time viewing. A guy in the woods doesn't need great "1000yd" resolution. Good enough is good enough. What is most important is mechanical reliability, and a scope with a good track record mechanically AND fits your pocketbook will be your best choice. While certainly not the rule, but rather an exception, there are times when you need to have that "1000 yd resolution" to pick your target out of a crowd. Easy enough to identify the trophy animal with a good bino, but under adverse conditions (i.e., low light) a lesser scope might not be able to discern what you could find in your binos. This is just one example of an advantage to having quality glass on your rifle. Well, as many experts here have stated, a good 6x42 is all you really need. And, it really should be a Zeiss or Schmidt & Bender. But if you're too cheap to spend your kid's college fund on hunting equipment, a Leupold will get you by and a Sightron is ok as long as you buy it now with the $100.00 rebate. I sold this stuff for 35 years, and believe me I have no problem with buying, using, and recommending high end optics. When I took "real" photos, people would ask me why I used/needed a Hasselblad just to take pictures. I would tell them "Because I can't afford anything better". Well, the same applies to rifle scopes, automobiles, and just about everything else I buy. You really can't beat using/having the "best there is" and in a perfect world, we would all drive Bentley's and use Schmidt & Bender's. I would be willing to bet any amount that far more animals are missed (even in dim light) due to mechanical issues than optical quality.
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Go with the Nitrex, as you and i know, it's a great scope. Is identical to the weaver that cost 400. I own two TR2's and just bought a tr1 for my truck gun. I also own a sightron siii 8-32, a vortex pst, two bushnell Tacticals and several others. If your not turning dials, the Nitrex is a steal at 100 bucks.
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Care to share the specifics of your personal experience where this has been a 'deal breaker' or even mattered at all? There was on occasion when I could see the deer with 8X bino but could not distinguish the antlers in the tangle of twigs and leaves until I turned the scope up to 10X.
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Care to share the specifics of your personal experience where this has been a 'deal breaker' or even mattered at all? There was on occasion when I could see the deer with 8X bino but could not distinguish the antlers in the tangle of twigs and leaves until I turned the scope up to 10X. Was your scope set on 8x like the binoculars to begin with and then moved to 10x?
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Go with the Nitrex, as you and i know, it's a great scope. Is identical to the weaver that cost 400. I own two TR2's and just bought a tr1 for my truck gun. I also own a sightron siii 8-32, a vortex pst, two bushnell Tacticals and several others. If your not turning dials, the Nitrex is a steal at 100 bucks. Thats what my gut is telling me. I have been impressed with the TR One on my ADL. I just pulled it out of the safe a few minutes ago, just to make sure, and the glass is still amazing for a scope of this cost. I think it will serve me well on the little .223.
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While you were defining us low dollar scope buyers as "white trash". I 'd like to say I prefer big dollar stuff bought inexpensively, the best quality that what money I have to spend can buy. So why don't you cruise fleabay, Gunbroker,24 hr classifieds, and other sites find a deal on a 3x9 Leupold VariX llc and quit farting around. Last one I bought was a $160. You asked and I delivered. Magnum Man
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Go with the Nitrex, as you and i know, it's a great scope. Is identical to the weaver that cost 400. I own two TR2's and just bought a tr1 for my truck gun. I also own a sightron siii 8-32, a vortex pst, two bushnell Tacticals and several others. If your not turning dials, the Nitrex is a steal at 100 bucks. Thats what my gut is telling me. I have been impressed with the TR One on my ADL. I just pulled it out of the safe a few minutes ago, just to make sure, and the glass is still amazing for a scope of this cost. I think it will serve me well on the little .223. Good Choice!!!
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While you were defining us low dollar scope buyers as "white trash". I 'd like to say I prefer big dollar stuff bought inexpensively, the best quality that what money I have to spend can buy. So why don't you cruise fleabay, Gunbroker,24 hr classifieds, and other sites find a deal on a 3x9 Leupold VariX llc and quit farting around. Last one I bought was a $160. You asked and I delivered. Magnum Man Huh? For what its worth, I have a Vari-X IIc on a rifle at the same time I had the Nitrex on the ADL. I kept the Nitrex. Not a Leupold fan then, now, or most likely in the future.
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Some people get to hung up on name brands. The glass and coatings on the Nitrex are as good or better than any VX-II Leupold plus they are a one piece tube
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The Sightron Big Sky in either 3x9 or 3.5x10, with the rebate = $199. Tis a no-brainer.
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...But if you're too cheap to spend your kid's college fund on hunting equipment... The $4000.00 one can spend on the most expensive S&B 5-25 might pay my daughter's tuition and fees for one semester...and then there's housing.
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