Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire No love for George H.W. Bush..............

George,

Read the title of this thread. And access the links I've posted. Bush bailed out of his plane to save his a$s at the expense of his two crew members. The right procedure was for Bush to have attempted a water landing thereby attempting to save the lives of his crew members. That was his job. His job was not to save his a$s at the expense of his crew members lives. That was established protocol.

George, if you want to retain your belief that Bush was a hero, I'm good. But those who were there and know what Bush did have a very different take on Bush's status as a hero. And just doing his job does not make him a hero, just like your just doing your job does not make you a hero. Access the link I've posted about Vincent Bugliosi's definition of a hero for enlightenment.

I must admit I have only skimmed over this thread
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It's rather obvious you skim over most of which you read.

I've always been above normal, so can't oblige. You, however ...

Oh, I have no opinion on that. Haven't studied it enough. It likely takes a certain degree of guts just to pilot a fighter jet, however, let alone in a war zone.

You still here, dipschit?

Bush-Hinckley connection.

I'm curious....are you being intentionally disingenuous, are your reading comprehension skills lacking or is your memory faulty? Don't attribute a belief/quote to me that I've already stated I don't hold.

George

George,

No. I am responding to your belief that Bush was a hero. If you want to believe it, I'm good.

If that's the case you should have no problem finding the post where I called him a hero, right?

George

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If he has a light source up his dumb ass,maybe.

George,

Are you declaring that you did not defend Bush's status as alleged war hero?

I asked him point blank in another thread if he was raisinhead and he never admitted to it. Must be ashamed of the things he wrote. I have no idea why the name change but he is an Azzhat which ever name he uses. miles

I'll save you the time. Here's my original post (bold added):

"I've never considered Bush a "hero" but have always respected his service. I don't feel it necessary to praise or condemn the man when I wasn't in his shoes."

So, yes, I guess you could say that I never called him a hero.

George

Here's what you posted. You've always "...respected his service..." even tough he was derelict in his duty to protect his crew members.

I was wrong in that you did not call him a hero. However, you have defended him by finding it unnecessary to praise or condemn him. If he was in fact derelict in his duty to protect the lives of his crew members, why would you find it unnecessary to condemn him?

Good job admitting you were wrong.

I will speak to some aviators I respect and see what they have to say on the issue. Pugs is, unfortunately, hunting or I'm sure he would have weighed in by now. Your statement that he was derelict means nothing as you don't have the qualifications to make the statement. I will readily admit that I don't have the requisite knowledge at this point to render a decision on the matter.

That said, the man was a combat pilot. That alone is worthy of respect in my mind.

George

STFU, you demented simpleton.

I could've respected Bush if he had at least tried to save his two crew members as was his job. But he didn't. He chose to save himself at the expense of his crew members' lives.

In another post in this thread is a synopsis of a previous incident in which Bush effectuated a water landing saving his crew members. So why didn't he attempt the same maneuver again?

Well we all know he was because you said so, right here in this thread although all you have is somebody in another plane that claimed it to be true. Now this man might have been holding a grudge against GHWB that had nothing to do with his courage or lack of it. Again it might have been that the plane that was on fire and had been for some time would not respond to the controls any more. You don't know, I don't know. Again it seems like one of the other two men in the plane managed to get out and was lost and the other might have been dead, you don't know, I don't know. Now what I glean from all of this is that you have a Hard on for GHWB for some reason and are trying to trash him via this thread, which makes you a troll and an Azzhat, to me. Now I do know that the military saw fit to give him a medal for this act and according to what I have read he flew the plane and dropped his bombs even after it was hit, so I would say that he most likely was no coward. Scared as hell, probably, might have made a bad decision or two. I do doubt from reading others accounts (not your man) that he put his life before the others. He might have thought that they were right behind him or maybe the other one that jumped was before him, I don't know, you don't know. You are in fact trying to trash an old man that is now sick by using things that you do not know are true or not. That would lend credence that maybe you are the one that is a coward. miles

Do you mean that this black chick, Laguana, is the same poster as the effeminate sounding member who called herself Rasuilli?

Now it all makes sense..................... except why y'all are still responding to its' posts.

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