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The Rugers just aren't accurate enough to be interesting. Nor are your opinions. laughing
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I would run a ruger MKII stainless. Install a timney trigger, once adjusted Red loctite the adjustments. Install a stainless ruger barrel band front sight. Have it cerakoted black. Bed it in Devcon in a McMillan MKII classic. Sight it in with a NECG peep and a FXII 6x36 with dotz. Put the peep in my pack
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Seems like #2 washtub sized groups are acceptable for most. If that's the case then a Ruger just may fit the bill.
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Swampy, just because you can't shoot them doesn't mean they aren't accurate. I've got many that shoot lights out...Plus, they feed and extract the way a rifle is susposed to as well.... 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Well...he just changed his avatar from Ruger to Winchester, after it was remington for awhile. Fickle bish....
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Yea it's odd that I can shoot sub-MOA groups with any brand other than a Ruger. Even Marlin 336s and NEF HandiRifles will shoot sub-MOA for me......what gives?
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Simple....you are not 'careful' with the truth....
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Yea it's odd that I can shoot sub-MOA groups with any brand other than a Ruger. Even Marlin 336s and NEF HandiRifles will shoot sub-MOA for me......what gives? I don't know brother, maybe you had too much fresca that day... 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I've never been a Ruger rifle fan, because of their molded metal parts. But I won't believe that they can't shoot MOA when properly setup.
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So lets say all of a sudden you have to live off a rifle on a daily basis or you have to guide for a living. You don't have time for frequent maintenance. You don't sit at the bench and pound out little groups for 40 weeks a year and hunt for the remaining two to eight. You do have to have a dependable rifle that will take the mud, rain and snow as part of its check off sheet. You shoot mainly plus sized animals and not 1in squares. You only have one or two rifles and they must work when you call on them. Yeah - I'd trust this old sporterized Enfield if I had to live off of 1: ![[Linked Image]](http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/EnfieldNo4MK1_303_3_042708.jpg)
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A few million Canadians can't be wrong. The .303 has filled a few pots.
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My old .300 with either a 3-9 or 4-12 Leupld..it has been shooting for 42 years, never a hitch, been from Alaska to Tex., from East coast fo Left coast, and Africa..Never failed..
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A few million Canadians can't be wrong. The .303 has filled a few pots. And you've smoked a bowl or 2 haven't you swampy....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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A few million Canadians can't be wrong. The .303 has filled a few pots. Well... right here on the pages of the 'fire', the Cans EXPLICITLY told ME, "the 303B = the 308W. SHEESH!!!!
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That's exactly the question that most of us are asking since you've posted pics of your "MOA" (if you ignore some of the shots) groups. I suppose, in your case, that MOA likely stands for "minute of azz" where deer are concerned. My Hawkeye does just fine in my hands as well as others who have shot it. In your hands.....not so much. George
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~
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1. My CZ 550 American 6.5x55 with a Zeiss Conquest 3x9x40. German #4 reticle.
2. My Remington 700 ADL synthetic stocked .270 with iron sights. It carries a Bushnell Elite 4200 3x9x40. It has a trigger job - 3lb pull. The least expensive centerfire rifle I own yet shoots sub-moa with Remington Core-Lokt 130 grains.
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Easy - My Kevlar stocked Remington 700 stainless 06' with a 3X9 Leupold. It weighs a little over 6 lbs and it can be beat on all day and well it's a 30-06... Simplicity. And it shoots about any ammo well.
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Remington 700 .30-06 Leupold 3-9x40.
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