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If you are looking for peer approval around this place you need to move on. Finicky bunch of girls around here that only like what they have in their model and caliber.
I guess I left High school years ago and do not care what others think. Yes you do. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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If you are looking for peer approval around this place you need to move on. Finicky bunch of girls around here that only like what they have in their model and caliber.
I guess I left High school years ago and do not care what others think. That's an interesting observation, coming from a new guy.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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I'm a fan of both and something I've noticed.
On the bench Nulas will normally win the race. Off the bench it becomes much closer.
Like the Kimber trigger and safety much more than the Nula. You can look down into the safety cut of the Nula and see a little spring and there are more of them in there. Fine in nice weather not so much in bad. IMO a weak point re Nula design. However, nothing a now and then squirt of lighter fluid wouldn't
take care of for the most part. But when it goes bad it is a comparatively bigger problem.
I much prefer the Nula stock for fit than the Kimber. Some don't like the more curved grip of the Nula but I prefer it and for some reason the Nula stock seems to jump less off the bench and recoils less. The more curved grip allows the palm to absorb more of the recoil?
Took a Nula out of the safe last night and it is sweet. Grabbed a Kimber for comparison and there is not much to gripe about. Both are really nice.
Extended hard country/weather I'd take the Kimber. Here in Pa it is nice to have both.
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laissez les bons temps rouler
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Or Kimber thinking�"we need better barrels"  Yep, I think the Forbes is a Kimber wake up call.
laissez les bons temps rouler
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Campfire observation:
Often mentioned that the lightweight Kimbers are fussy regarding ones technique. Yet with lightweight Nulas it is mentioned little.
Lightweight Kimbers tend to be load specific and lightweight Nulas shoot most any load well.
Seems like with the introduction of the Forbes rifle, we are hearing about less problems with Kimber accuracy. Coincidence? For a $2,000-2,500 price difference between Kimbers and NULAs, there had better be a difference in quality and shoot-a-bility across the board. Add me to the list of folks who much prefer the action and safety of the Kimbers. Not to say I wouldn't own a NULA...I certainly would.
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I'm a fan of both and something I've noticed.
On the bench Nulas will normally win the race. Off the bench it becomes much closer.
Like the Kimber trigger and safety much more than the Nula. You can look down into the safety cut of the Nula and see a little spring and there are more of them in there. Fine in nice weather not so much in bad. IMO a weak point re Nula design. However, nothing a now and then squirt of lighter fluid wouldn't
take care of for the most part. But when it goes bad it is a comparatively bigger problem.
I much prefer the Nula stock for fit than the Kimber. Some don't like the more curved grip of the Nula but I prefer it and for some reason the Nula stock seems to jump less off the bench and recoils less. The more curved grip allows the palm to absorb more of the recoil?
Took a Nula out of the safe last night and it is sweet. Grabbed a Kimber for comparison and there is not much to gripe about. Both are really nice.
Extended hard country/weather I'd take the Kimber. Here in Pa it is nice to have both. The ULA/NULA/Forbes safety/trigger bothers me. The gaping hole allowing access for crud to get down inside, and the safety itself moves such a short distance from safe to fire that I find myself constantly checking it to make sure it's "on safe". I much prefer the Kimber in those aspects. I prefer the Kimber grip. I find the ULA to be a bit too closed for my liking, though the stock design sure does a wonderful job of soaking up recoil. Both great rifles. The ULA seems to be a really consistent shooter, but I've never had major troubles with the four Kimber 84Ms I've owned. I like them both!
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I failed High school years ago and do not care what others think. Ok
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The ULA/NULA/Forbes safety/trigger bothers me. The gaping hole allowing access for crud to get down inside, and the safety itself moves such a short distance from safe to fire that I find myself constantly checking it to make sure it's "on safe".
I much prefer the Kimber in those aspects.
I prefer the Kimber grip. I find the ULA to be a bit too closed for my liking.
I've never had major troubles with the four Kimber 84Ms I've owned.
I just knew you'd hate that .22 ULA. You're correct on all of the problems (cleaned up the points you didn't need). I'll get you my FFL's info for the .22. 
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The cut isn't the big part of the problem. Timney triggers are fine on the bench, but those little springs and close together sliding parts don't do them any favors when moisture finds its way inside and it can arrive in the bottom or from condensation.
laissez les bons temps rouler
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The ULA/NULA/Forbes safety/trigger bothers me. The gaping hole allowing access for crud to get down inside, and the safety itself moves such a short distance from safe to fire that I find myself constantly checking it to make sure it's "on safe".
I much prefer the Kimber in those aspects.
I prefer the Kimber grip. I find the ULA to be a bit too closed for my liking.
I've never had major troubles with the four Kimber 84Ms I've owned.
I just knew you'd hate that .22 ULA. You're correct on all of the problems (cleaned up the points you didn't need). I'll get you my FFL's info for the .22. Ha! Well I'll let you know if I sell.
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If you are looking for peer approval around this place you need to move on. Finicky bunch of girls around here that only like what they have in their model and caliber.
I guess I left High school years ago and do not care what others think. That's an interesting observation, coming from a new guy. Hard to argue with the guy though IMO.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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If you are looking for peer approval around this place you need to move on. Finicky bunch of girls around here that only like what they have in their model and caliber.
I guess I left High school years ago and do not care what others think. That's an interesting observation, coming from a new guy. I do not post often but have been around since 2007
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I failed High school years ago and do not care what others think. Ok Exactly my point, I see your panties are already wadded.
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I think Kimbers have become much more a known quantity--and some QC issues have been settled--so they get much less bandwidth. I do not think their fans are any less enthusiastic about them.
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I've been thinking about a Kimber or a Forbes. In looking at the specs, it seems that a long action Forbes with a 24 inch barrel come in at 41.5 inches in overall length while a short action Kimber with a 22 inch barrel comes in at 41.25 inches in overall length. Is that right? Can someone who has handled both confirm that the Forbes action is that much shorter than the Kimber?
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I'm a Kimber fan, but you'll see a bunch of Kimber Montana's for sale once the Forbes rifles are readily available in all stainless. I certainly hope so. And I hope they'll be offered for a great price! I'll definitely be keeping my eyes on the Classifieds as I think I'm going to finally pick one or two up for myself, and see what all the fuss has been about. Hope they shoot! Fingers crossed.
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You'll hear more about the Forbes rifles in short order. Especially the 20B.
1. Melvin's actions are stronger.
2. The Forbes rifles utilize a #2 barrel contour.
3. Each action is individually bedded to the stock.
4. Melvin's stock is stiffer.
5. The 24B and 20B cost more than a Kimber, a true NULA is much more.
I'm a Kimber fan, but you'll see a bunch of Kimber Montana's for sale once the Forbes rifles are readily available in all stainless.
Isn't there some sort of issue with the stainless action Forbes not being completely stainless? I thought I remembered reading something about it, but can't seem to find anything through a search.
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You'll hear more about the Forbes rifles in short order. Especially the 20B.
1. Melvin's actions are stronger.
2. The Forbes rifles utilize a #2 barrel contour.
3. Each action is individually bedded to the stock.
4. Melvin's stock is stiffer.
5. The 24B and 20B cost more than a Kimber, a true NULA is much more.
I'm a Kimber fan, but you'll see a bunch of Kimber Montana's for sale once the Forbes rifles are readily available in all stainless.
Isn't there some sort of issue with the stainless action Forbes not being completely stainless? I thought I remembered reading something about it, but can't seem to find anything through a search. Hadn't heard that. However, their switch to a 2pos/2 fuction safety is not to my liking.
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Found a post mentioning the stainless rifles still have a chrome moly bolt.
Lame.
Probably worth a call to Forbes to either confirm or deny.
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