Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Long Range Hunting The new 26 Nosler

That is why I sold my 264 win.



And this with a ultra light fluted skinny barrel.

Bell and Carlson is building that rifle stock.

I have a reamer, rcbs dies, go and no go, and a box of factory loaded ammo pictured......

May or may not be new pills for this medicine in the making.....

I have a 6.5 Bartlien 8.5 twist heavy palma I am considering installing on a Remington 700P in 300WM that doesn't get shot much..........Not really wanting to use that barrel so I have been looking for a couple others.

Really?

I have a hard time believing that, but their definition of an issue might not be the same as others.

Yeah, I'd love to take a peek at the throat of that 1,000 round barrel with my Hawkeye. Bet it's showing some throat erosion.

My 6.5-284 showed early erosion at 400 rnds, but no loss of 1/2 MOA performance. The 26 Nosler has to be harder on barrels than the 6.5-284, which has it's own barrel history.

DF

Interesting tread going on over at SH with a cut away of a 6.5 CM,

http://forum.snipershide.com/sniper...6-5-creedmoor-3000-rounds-down-tube.html

DF,

I bet it shows some throat erosion in 200 rounds. That's because I've seen "some" throat erosion in 200 rounds in a 7mm STW, and even in a .223 Remington.

Throat erosion is an inevitable fact with most modern centerfire rifle cartridges. I can even see a trace in my Ruger No. 1B .22 Hornet, though it's more a slight rounding of the lands in the throat, rather than any cracking.

The real question is how long a barrel will shoot accurately enough for what's desired by the shooter. I doubt any competitive shooters will be using the 26 Nosler. Instead they'll be hunters, some of whom may be totally satisfied with the accuracy after 1000 rounds, or even more.

And some people may not want to run it full-out. One of the more interesting aspects to me is that it will probably get 3200 fps out of 140'sat less-than-max pressures. That's been the Holy Grail with .264 fans for many years, and they've gone to a lot of trouble to get there. Usually when it happens, it's in a 26" barrel and with one or two rather specialized powders. My guess is the 26 will do it easily in a 24" barrel with several powders.

We'll see.

John,

If you built a 26 Nosler for hunting, would you go with a 26" or 24" bbl.?

DF

Probably 24", maybe 25". A heavier barrel is usually needed to get the same sort of accuracy from a 26" versus a 24".

One of the things I've noticed about the 26 case that apparently it will clean up a .264 chamber, which is no doubt a smart move by Nosler. And I have a Ruger Hawkeye with a 24" 1-8 barrel that shoots very well....

Do certain types of powder contribute to faster erosion?
Same with light or heavy bullets?

My guess, knowing gun nuts like we do, is that 90% of the purchasers will be cussing because the Nosler ammo is loaded to "lawyer level".

Then they will be trying to make 3500 fps with 140's.

Heck, I have to admit that I burned a few pounds of powder reaching for 3200 with a 140 in my old 264. But then I figured out it was a lot easier to make 3200 with a 27 inch barrel and 130's and the deer can't tell the difference.

My guess is the Nosler ammo will hit the velocity they claim--at least in their rifles. There are too many chronographs out there for it not to.

My first .264 was a pre-'64 Westerner, and 3200 with 140's was possible at 65,000 psi with three powders. This was 10 years ago and only one of the powders resulted in good accuracy.

Based on some experience, I'm pretty sure deer can't tell the difference between any 100-160 grain 6.5 bullet that whacks them in the ribs. But the present 6.5 mania isn't just about killing deer, but the G1 BC, wind drift, and a range beyond 500 yards. And since deer are now killed by a new variety of statistics, many are going to judge the 26 on what it does with 140's.

Though a 6.5 fan, I doubt I'll buy the Nosler. Nothing wrong with it, I'm just not itching for one.

I do consider a 120-140 grain 6.5 bullet about nirvana for whitetail deer. I've yet to kill a deer at 500 yards with any 6.5 and probably never will. I've never owned one that would push a 140 grain bullet 3200fps either. All of mine leave the muzzle at 2700-2900fps and they still work fine.

I have several 6.5's that start 140's at anything from 2400 to 3200. Amazingly, they all kill deer!

I talk to them all the time. Great bunch of guys. Call them and tell them about our discussion. Ask them specifics....

I would never, ever, own a 264 or bigger (in case capacity) with less than a 26" tube.... Personal preference

I am sure it will.

My meaning was, there will be a bunch of guys who decide that giant case is capable of more. They will push for a couple hundred additional fps and then bitch because the throat in their rifle only lasted 150 rounds.

Eventually you do get to the point of diminishing returns.

Maybe this isn't relative but I have reached a 3 shot average of 3083fps with my 264wm with the 160gr Woodleigh PPSN with 71gr of the old H570 powder and the readings were 3052, 3088 and 3108. Have some to test with 73gr H570 which could reach 3150. 30" Shilen barrel.

Test rifle or hunting rig?