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Are there no depths to which this administration won't lower itself?
Seeking a 'deal' to help his muslim pals, Hussein may release Israeli spy.
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JERUSALEM (Reuters) - An Israeli spy serving a life sentence in the United States and groups of Palestinian prisoners could be freed under an emerging deal to salvage Middle East peace talks, sources close to the negotiations said on Monday.

The sources, who spoke as U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry prepared to meet Israeli and Palestinian leaders, said under the proposed arrangement that Jonathan Pollard, a former U.S. Navy analyst caught spying for Israel in the 1980s, could be released by mid-April.

In addition, Israel would go ahead with a promised release of a fourth group of Palestinians, among the 104 it pledged to free in a deal that led to the renewal of peace talks last July. Another group of jailed Palestinians would also go free - and the peace talks would be extended beyond an April 29 deadline, the sources said.


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Hell, that's nothing. One of the most damaging spies against the US was Jeff Carney, who now calls himself Jens Karney only served 12 years of a 40 years sentence. TIme was, they were hung. I helped chase Carney, but wasn't in on the final act due to a reassignment, but it was satisfying to know he'd been caught.

Still, I know how you feel. Capital punishment doesn't deter, but it sure cuts down on recidivism.


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Are there no depths to which this administration won't lower itself?
Seeking a 'deal' to help his muslim pals, Hussein may release Israeli spy.


seems like that would help Israel to me.

Our "ally" has wanted Pollard out for a long time


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I can understand why Israel would like to see him freed. He passed our classified information to them for their benefit.

Which is exactly the reason why we should not release him. He is a spy and a traitor to our country and what he did was extremely harmful to us.

He fully deserves the punishment he got, and hopefully it will deter others from being traitors.

Releasing him would only encourage others to do what he did.

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We need to send the traitor Pollard to Israel in 1 inch cubes. Of all the stupid thing Obama has done this is in the top 5.

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Originally Posted by 7x57STEVE
I can understand why Israel would like to see him freed. He passed our classified information to them for their benefit.

Which is exactly the reason why we should not release him. He is a spy and a traitor to our country and what he did was extremely harmful to us.

He fully deserves the punishment he got, and hopefully it will deter others from being traitors.

Releasing him would only encourage others to do what he did.


People like Edward Snowden.

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Double this. But look on the positive side, this might put Bristoe, TRH and the Naziinthemachine over the edge....


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Originally Posted by Dan_Chamberlain
Hell, that's nothing. One of the most damaging spies against the US was Jeff Carney, who now calls himself Jens Karney only served 12 years of a 40 years sentence. TIme was, they were hung. I helped chase Carney, but wasn't in on the final act due to a reassignment, but it was satisfying to know he'd been caught.

Still, I know how you feel. Capital punishment doesn't deter, but it sure cuts down on recidivism.


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Considering how casually information flows from the U.S. to Israel, Pollard must have been involved in something *way* out of bounds to receive the sentence he did.

Much of it is very classified, but from doing a bit of reading, it appears that Israel traded some very delicate information provided by Pollard to the Soviet Union in exchange for allowing Jews to immigrate to Israel

Stuff like this:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/backissues/2011/01/back-issues-jonathan-pollard.html

in exchange for continued Soviet permission for Jews to emigrate to Israel. Other officials go further, and say that there was reason to believe that secret information was exchanged for Jews working in highly sensitive positions in the Soviet Union. A significant percentage of Pollard�s documents, including some that described the techniques the American Navy used to track Soviet submarines around the world, was of practical importance to the Soviet Union.

Any spy that gets caught tossing around nuclear defense secrets is going to get hammered. That pretty much goes without saying.

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1985 The New York Times reports the FBI is aware of at least a dozen incidents in which American officials transferred classified information to the Israelis.

1985 Richard Smyth, is indicted on charges of smuggling nuclear timing devices to Israel (Washington Post, 10/31/86).

1987 April 24 �Role of Israel in Iran-Contra Scandal Won�t be Explored in Detail by Panels�

1992 The Wall Street Journal reports that Israeli agents tried to steal top-secret airborne spy-camera system.

1992 Stephen Bryen, caught offering confidential documents to Israel in 1978, is a paid consultant � with security clearance � on exports of sensitive US technology.

1992 intelligence was flying so voluminously from LAKAM into Israeli intelligence that a special code name, JUMBO, was added to the security markings already on the documents. There were strict orders, Ari Ben-Menashe recalled: �Anything marked JUMBO was not supposed to be discussed with your American counterparts.�

1993. The ADL is caught operating a massive spying operation on critics of Israel, Arab-Americans, the San Francisco Labor Council, ILWU Local 10, Oakland Educational Association, NAACP, Irish Northern Aid, International Indian Treaty Council, the Asian Law Caucus and the San Francisco police. Data collected was sent to Israel.

1995 The Defense Investigative Service circulates a memo warning US military contractors that �Israel aggressively collects [US] military and industrial technology.�

1996 General Accounting Office: "Weaknesses in US Security Arrangements With Foreign-Owned Defense Contractors� found that �Country A (Israel)conducts the most aggressive espionage operation against the United States of any US ally.�

The GAO report also noted that �Several citizens of [Israel] were caught in the United States stealing sensitive technology used in manufacturing artillery gun tubes.�

1996 An Office of Naval Intelligence reported that �US technology has been acquired [by China] through Israel in the form of the Lavi fighter and possibly SAM [surface-to-air] missile technology.�

1997 An Army mechanical engineer, David A. Tenenbaum, �inadvertently� gives classified military information on missile systems and armored vehicles to Israeli officials.

1997 Conversation in which two Israeli officials had discussed the possibility of getting a confidential letter that then-Secretary of State Warren Christopher had written to Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat.

1997 US ambassador to Israel, Martin Indyk, complains privately to the Israeli government about heavy-handed surveillance by Israeli intelligence agents.

1997 Israeli agents place a tap on Monica Lewinsky�s phone at the Watergate and record phone sex sessions between her and President Bill Clinton.

2001 It is discovered that US drug agents� communications have been penetrated. Suspicion falls on two companies owned by Israelis.Investigation by the FBI leads to the exposure of the largest foreign spy ring ever uncovered inside the United States, operated by Israel.

2001 The FBI is investigating 5 Israeli moving companies as possible fronts for Israeli intelligence.

2001 JDL�s Irv Rubin arrested for planning to bomb a US Congressman. He dies before he can be brought to trial.

2002 The DEA issues a report that Israeli spies, posing as art students, have been trying to penetrate US Government offices.

2002 police near the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station in southern Washington State stop a suspicious truck and detain two Israelis, one of whom is illegally in the United States. The two men were driving at high speed in a Ryder rental truck, which they claimed had been used to �deliver furniture.� The next day, police discovered traces of TNT and RDX military-grade plastic explosives inside the passenger cabin and on the steering wheel of the vehicle. The FBI then announces that the tests that showed explosives were �false positived� by cigarette smoke, a claim test experts say is ridiculous. Based on an alibi provided by a woman, the case is closed and the Israelis are handed over to INS to be sent back to Israel. One week later, the woman who provided the alibi vanishes.

2003 The Police Chief of Cloudcroft stops a truck speeding through a school zone. The drivers turn out to be Israelis with expired passports. Claiming to be movers, the truck contains junk furniture and several boxes. The Israelis are handed over to immigration. The contents of the boxers are not revealed to the public.

2003 Israel deploys assassination squads into other countries, including the United States. The US Government does not protest.

2004 Police near the Nuclear Fuel Services plant in Tennessee stop a truck after a three mile chase, during which the driver throws a bottle containing a strange liquid from the cab. The drivers turn out to be Israelis using fake Ids. The FBI refuses to investigate and the Israelis are released.

2004 Two Israelis try to enter Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base, home to eight Trident submarines. The truck tests positive for explosives.


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could be freed under an emerging deal to salvage Middle East peace talks


What a joke. Salvage the unsalvageable? Classic throw a fit and wait for Mommy to give in. Israel doesn't want to give anything more to the Muslims. They go hard core and are content with it. When the US comes along, they hold us up for some perk - in this case Pollard- do a short symbolic effort, and break off talks again. They gain.


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Wait till you read the pardons list on obongos way out.

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I really don't see this as much of an issue. He's eligible for parole next year and there's no indication he wouldn't get it. So what's the big deal, he was going to get out next year anyhow...so we let him go a year early, to assist in peace talks. How is this an issue?

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It's not an issue to me.

I'm sure he's been replaced at least 10 times over since he was locked up.

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Originally Posted by gunner500
Wait till you read the pardons list on obongos way out.

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Gunner, that could be the scariest thing you have ever said. shocked


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Originally Posted by gunner500
Wait till you read the pardons list on obongos way out.

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Gunner, that could be the scariest thing you have ever said. shocked
Whoa...yeah, I haven't thought of that either.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
It's not an issue to me.

I'm sure he's been replaced at least 10 times over since he was locked up.
Certainly has. The Mossad tends to be a rather competent group. I'm sure the FSB has us penetrated as well...they always have.

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Originally Posted by KevinGibson
I really don't see this as much of an issue. He's eligible for parole next year and there's no indication he wouldn't get it. So what's the big deal, he was going to get out next year anyhow...so we let him go a year early, to assist in peace talks. How is this an issue?


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Parole � even if the US government decides not to fight it in 2015, which is unlikely � would leave the balance of Pollard�s 45-year life sentence intact, and would not set him free.

On the contrary, parole would mean that for another 15 years (the balance of his sentence) the US would severely restrict his freedom of movement, travel, speech, employment and even domicile. He certainly would not be free to come home to Israel, the country to which he has devoted his life.


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