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#8770460 - 04/12/14 Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle?
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#8770480 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: bigwhoop]
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Thats okay with PETA though 'cause they are the property of a "right-winger".

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#8770494 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Take_a_knee]
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I'm wondering if anyone is allowed to the areas of the ranch to see if the mommas are being moved out or killed without the babies.
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#8770617 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: eyeball]
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Wonder what time the cookout starts. grin

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#8770788 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: plainsman456]
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this is [bleep] up. take his cows and kill em? they are trying to start a fight.

it's one thing to confiscate some of them and sell to recoup what they foresee is being owed to them as back payment for the grazing, but in reality they are trying to instigate him into fighting back physically so they can end this once and for all. be an interesting next few days.
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#8770812 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Colorado1135]
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Yep.
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#8770815 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: plainsman456]
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After clicking on the link in the OP and reading the article I find two women's names, an Amy and a Sally both holding top positions. No different than Sebelius and her replacement. WTF is with all these chunt in charge of so much they knew nothing about until they were appointed? Way to many holding judgeships, law enforcement command positions, House and Senate seats etc. IMO enemies of the republic each and everyone of them.
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#8770816 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Colorado1135]
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this is [bleep] up. take his cows and kill em? they are trying to start a fight.

No one said they had killed any cattle
Don't fall for the hype and make yourself look foolish
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#8770821 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Snyper]
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Bundy just reported it is Nevadas state land. 300 cattle are corralled. On Hannity interview.


Edited by eyeball (04/12/14)
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#8770824 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Snyper]
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they have been accused and not denied it. it would be [bleep] up if that was the case
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#8770832 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Colorado1135]
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They are from the govt and there to help him.
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#8770851 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Colorado1135]
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Originally Posted By: Colorado1135
they have been accused and not denied it. it would be [bleep] up if that was the case

They weren't accused and they didn't admit nor deny anything
Did you even read the article?
It's a BS article meant to incite the gullible, and it seems to be workiing well
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#8770862 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Snyper]
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says the tenderfoot
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#8770899 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: bigwhoop]
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Two other relevant questions are....

1) How many cows does Bundy own? (his own estimate of the size of the herd was apparently couple of hundred off)

and....

2) How many cows running loose on public land has he actually rounded up and sold in the last 20 years?


http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/57792018-90/utah-cattle-county-blm.html.csp

Cattle seized from public land in Nevada were once headed to Richfield for auction — but federal officials have changed their plans after Utah leaders argued the animals would threaten the state’s $1 billion livestock industry....

On Saturday, federal agents and contract wranglers began rounding up some 900 cows off public land allotments in Clark County, where Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally had them grazing for years.

Bundy has refused to pay BLM grazing fees since 1993, according to the Associated Press, which reported Bundy argues in court filings that his Mormon ancestors worked the land long before the BLM was formed, giving him rights that predate federal involvement.

....BLM’s plan to ship the cows 200 miles to a Sevier County auction yard sparked even more controversy. Herbert and other Utah political leaders say the cows should remain in Nevada.

"There are serious concerns about human safety and animal health and well-being if these animals are shipped to and sold in Utah," Herbert wrote....

After a meeting with Utah officials Tuesday, BLM officials agreed to give seized cattle that are "feral" to the state of Nevada, and keep cows bearing Bundy’s brand in Clark County for now, according to Washington County Commissioner Jim Eardley, who attended the meeting.

Some of the cattle so far seized apparently had wandered into Nevada from allotments on the Arizona Strip and will be returned to the Utah-based ranchers who own them, Eardley said.

On Friday, Eardly and his fellow commissioners passed an emergency resolution giving a litany of reasons why the Bundy cows must stay out. Topping the list are brucellosis and other diseases that could spread to Utah herds.

The resolution claims many of Bundy’s cows have been running loose on the range for so many years that they can no longer be considered domestic. In addition to being disease carriers, these animals are not accustomed to being gathered or transported and would be a menace to those handling them, it said.

"Feral cattle do not receive proper immunizations or other veterinary care," the resolution states. "Feral cattle are likely to interbreed, and interbreeding of cattle creates numerous problems with maintaining a healthy and vibrant herd."

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#8770910 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Birdwatcher]
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I guess I just dont understand how the Fed. is involved at all.Its state land so why were they collecting fees.Can someone explain this to me.
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#8770920 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Birdwatcher]
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Yea, they sure worry about that turtle, disease, domestication and interbreeding thing with the wild horses.
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#8770921 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Birdwatcher]
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pure political bs.
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#8770924 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: jdm953]
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Originally Posted By: jdm953
I guess I just dont understand how the Fed. is involved at all.Its state land so why were they collecting fees.Can someone explain this to me.

It's not state land
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#8770927 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Fireball2]
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When will they remember to bring up the amount of methane gas produced by them, but not the wild burros.
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#8770933 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: bigwhoop]
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"Lueders said she understood that the heavy equipment was being used to 'restore land that has been affected by the trespass cattle.' "
Bull schlitz!

She needs to get her azz out of the air-conditioned office more often.
We're not talking about 300 million buffalo stampeding across the land....we're talking about 500-600 cattle over what.....150,000 acres.

The "heavy equip" (whatever that means) is or was being used to blaze staging areas (corrals) for the captured cattle and/or to open roads or improve two tracks
so that semi's can get in there to remove the cattle. The use of a backhole to
hoist dead animals into a dump truck is another possibility.
A private aircraft can fly over the area and record what has changed. The scars would stand out. Of course,the BLM could request the FAA or Homeland to declare the area a no-fly zone.

The statement that heavy equip would repair habitat damage done by cattle is assinine. Let's compare footprints of the equip to the cattle. And why attempt range repair when the cattle haven't all been captured?

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#8770935 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Snyper]
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Thats not what was reported on Fox a while ago.
Originally Posted By: Snyper
Originally Posted By: jdm953
I guess I just dont understand how the Fed. is involved at all.Its state land so why were they collecting fees.Can someone explain this to me.

It's not state land
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#8770936 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Colorado1135]
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Originally Posted By: Colorado1135
says the tenderfoot

If I couldn't state any facts, I'd just not say anything, rather than act childish by using name calling
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#8770950 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Snyper]
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hey, it aint my fault you took offense at the term we call you guys. it's not derogatory, just an illustration of what you are capable of out west.
It has rang true everytime IME, but once. Thank EvilTwin for proving not all easterners are tenderfeet.
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#8770951 - 04/12/14 Re: Has the BLM euthanized some of Bundy's cattle? [Re: Colorado1135]
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Thats not what was reported on Fox a while ago.

Lots of false information get reported
Reality is the BLM either owns or manages 80-90% of Nevada, including Bundy'd little corner
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