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My Kahr CW 40 is dropping the magazine after 2-3 shots. I got to looking into it and it looks like its not just me. And actually I'm kinda pissed that Kahr has allowed this to happen. The pistol met all my wants. I actually was damn happy with it's accuracy and I'd put several hundred rounds through it and deceide to sell it to fund a pack(StoneGlacier) but after shooting last weekend, I can't sell it. I can't sell a pistol to a man whom might be getting it to protect his family. Or maybe gifting it to his daughter or his son or his wife so they can protect themselves.

Looking into this even more I see Kahr still sell's these pistols that can easily drop magazines after a couple shots. Getting pissed just thinking about it. Intruder enters your home while your out of town working.. [bleep] enters your wife's room. She awakens and grabs her pistol. Fires 2 shots and then the gun doesn't fire. She misses.... I couldn't even imagine what could happen next next.

From what I've seen Kahr is trying to help customers with this issue. I'll find out tomorrow when I tell the tech/difficulties rep the serial number on the pistol I own.

I have a big problem with a pistol company that knows this is a problem and continues to produce firearms with this kind of problem.

Just a blowing off some steam and letting folks know that before they buy a Kahr and gift it to a wife or daughter that they make damn sure they put 200-500 rounds or even more through it to be able to sleep at night knowing the protection they just gave a loved one is reliable.



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Wow. This is news to me and I agree if it is a known design issue Kahr should make it right. My CW9 has never bobbled.


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From what I've read on other sites the Kahr magazines, etc., have been an issue for some time. Many report no issues at all, but enough do that I would not trust the product. Too bad, as the ergos are quite nice.


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My Kahr CW-9 has been flawless. Is it just an issue with the .40s? I haven't heard of any issues with the CW-45. Seems a bit odd. I suppose the .40 is a bit snappy. Any chance your inadvertently making contact with the release during recoil? I'd really check that out before blasting the gun (pardon the pun). It would be pretty easy to do.


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Kahrs have pretty much been a hit or miss proposition since they came on the scene. While I find that unacceptable from a product line with such a high msrp, I've owned two; one initially had multiple issues and other has been flawless.

In all fairness to Kahr, they took care of the problems on their shipping dime - multiple times. One fix even involved replacing the frame.

Unlike some other major brands, Kahr doesn't do a good job of communicating upgrades and modifications when they find it necessary to modify the product line. One of my issues had been already rectified with a magazine redesign/upgrade, but I could not find that Kahr had communicated that with end-users in any venue.

If you have a "problem child" I'm reasonably convinced Kahr will work with you in resolving problems, but it requires an exercise in patience and the associated inconvenience.

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My Kahr P9 has never failed in anyway , just change out the mag release spring on your pistol, you sure you aren't hitting the mag release when firing the weapon with your thumb .


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I've had an issue with dropping the mag from my K40, but it was my fault and was caused by the way I was gripping the gun. FWIW


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Two P9's, a PM9, and a P380. Nary a bobble. A few malfunctions during the 200rd break in. The 380 wouldn't digest cheap Tula.

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I have always been a little reserved when it came to Kahrs, have looked at them more than one and just couldnt bring myself to do it....They are way overpriced IMHO and for that price, they should dang well work flawlessly


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Amazing. My K40 has never dropped a mag in about 10 years of use. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another, in fact I probably will soon.


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Did they say why it's dropping the magazine?

On my two 9mm's you have to definitely seat it properly, if you shove it in with your palm it feels like it's seated but you have to give it an extra push to make sure. But that shows up immediately as it fails to feed the first round or, if it does feed, the magazine drops down at the first shot.

Is it something with the magazine catch itself?


On the prices, I'd agree that the P models are pretty spendy but the C models - CW and CM, are a great value for the money. All you lose is a dovetailed front sight, some meaningless engraving on the slide and you get an MIM slide release instead of a milled one. Plus you get conventional rifling instead of polygonal which is a plus for the C models IMO.


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I had the same problem with my CW40. � I replaced the mag catch and spring � problem solved. Noticeably larger engagement surface on replacement mag catch.

Have a CW45 and a CW9 � neither have this problem.

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For some time now, I've had 2 CW40's and a CW9. All 3 have been flawless through several hundred rounds.

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Jim thanks for that info


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I wonder if this is due to your grip?... I say this because my wife couldn't get more than about 3 shots and the mag would drop on a CW9, she was inadvertantly pressing the mag release; whereas I have never had a problem with magazines dropping (from the CW9, CM9 or the CW45). I believe it's her thumb shape and/or grip. 'the real hawkeye' I believe has mentioned having the same problem with Kahr's.

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Originally Posted by bruinruin
I've had an issue with dropping the mag from my K40, but it was my fault and was caused by the way I was gripping the gun. FWIW


My Kahr CW 40 has never missed a beat, and I have at least 1000 rounds through it. My CW9, CM9, and CW 45 function flawlessly, and all are extremely accurate, much more so than some other brands of sub compacts.

I have seen issues with left handed shooters that have fat stubby fingers accidentally hit the mag release on a Ruger 380 that caused it to drop the magazine. For left handed shooters, their fingers and perhaps part of their hand rests on the mag release, and it is a bummer when it does drop the magazine.

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I have two good ones and one bad one that I traded off at a huge loss.


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Originally Posted by Dan_Chamberlain
Any chance your inadvertently making contact with the release during recoil? I'd really check that out before blasting the gun (pardon the pun). It would be pretty easy to do.
This was my issue with my Kahr occasionally dropping the mag under recoil. It's why I no longer carry it. Kahr should have made the grip frame such that the thumb cannot inadvertently compress the mag release, such as a small raised ridge behind it as part of the frame mold.

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Originally Posted by Son_of_the_Gael
Amazing. My K40 has never dropped a mag in about 10 years of use. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another, in fact I probably will soon.
In about five thousand rounds of fire, mine has only "dropped a mag" (due to inadvertent contact with my thumb under recoil) three or four time, but that was enough for me not to carry it regularly anymore.

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If you are releasing the mag with your grip on the button, I would think that is more the fault of your grip than a design flaw of the gun.

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