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For the cost of an air rifle that isn't a toy you could get a .22 with a can. Probably two of them. Really??? Cost of the can???? Cost of the stamp via the ATF??? Cost of the rifle? Cost of threading said can to the rifle? Associated fees for background check? On top of that, with a powder burner, you're on the ATFs list...Really? Then you have a "firearm" with a stamped can. Federal regulatory agencies all up your rectum with a microscope too... Airguns don't fall into that category. They are not considered a firearm, and the incorporated silencer isn't regulated as long as it is on an airgun.
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I think I could live for a while on game that air rifle can take out. Thanks for the pics.
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There is an old conspiracy theory that General Patton was assassinated with an air gun.
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Rockinbbar, are you shooting standard handgun bullets out of that 357 or are they "pellets"?
They say everything happens for a reason. For me that reason is usually because I've made some bad decisions that I need to pay for.
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So here's the question.
Since we know the good air rifles are very capable, are they feasable?
How do you reload it? Air I mean. In a SHTF scenario, how are you going to get tanks filled?
And where are ya going to get pellets? Do they make molds for them to make your own?
It's basically all the same questions as with a real rifle. How do you support the system with nowhere and no ability to purchase things?
So it's stockpile or make your own. Same with a real rifle. So the question is, is it feasible to stockpile ammo and air tanks?
I'm thinking it's at the very least a good addition. Not substitution. I'd like the ability to quietly hunt some food, while saving my real guns for self defense. As long as we're talking about staying in one place. If I gotta run, it's not on the list.
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They say everything happens for a reason. For me that reason is usually because I've made some bad decisions that I need to pay for.
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Interesting. And a quick google search revealed molds for .177 and .22. Also found instructions to make your own. I assume it can be made for any caliber
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I know my buddy fills his from a scuba tank as well, but he's lazy.
They say everything happens for a reason. For me that reason is usually because I've made some bad decisions that I need to pay for.
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I'd be that last person who would argue lethality of air guns; my concern goes to long term functionality. I've not had good experience with that. What brand? Benjamin. Older gun and probably the design and materials are irrelevant to today's technology, but all things considered I would not bet my future on an air rifle. My powder guns keep working, rain or shine, one year after another...and another... Come to think of it, my youngest powder gun is 14, the oldest 138. They both go bang everytime.
I am..........disturbed.
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I know my buddy fills his from a scuba tank as well, but he's lazy. I would too. But in the spirit of the thread, is stock piling scuba tanks possible? Eh, probably not.
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Both of my air rifles above have a built in silencer.
The loudest thing about them is the bullet hitting the target. Most aren't going to invest nearly as much money as you have tied up in that setup. In fact, most won't spend as much as what you paid to just be able to pump it up
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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Apparently you know very little about air rifles.. I know enough to know what I said is true
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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For the cost of an air rifle that isn't a toy you could get a .22 with a can. Probably two of them. Yes but no ammo. As said above must not know much about air rifles I've got plenty of ammo Don't you? You must not know much about planning ahead
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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What do you guys think of this? Advantages? Disadvantages? SHIF folks killing game to live and such. Easy....Red Ryder
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Apparently you know very little about air rifles.. I know enough to know what I said is true Keep believing that...
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Apparently you know very little about air rifles.. I know enough to know what I said is true Keep believing that... I will because it's still the truth The majority of people won't spend $1000 or more to have a PCP set up to kill large animals reliably when you can get a real gun for a lot less
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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I think I could live for a while on game that air rifle can take out. Thanks for the pics. That rifle lists for $1300-$1500 without the scope or pump. It has the power of a 38 Spcl No one thinks a 38 Spcl is a good hunting gun for larger animals
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I know my buddy fills his from a scuba tank as well, but he's lazy. I would too. But in the spirit of the thread, is stock piling scuba tanks possible? Eh, probably not. It's very possible as long as you're willing to spend the money for the tanks, and can find somewhere that can fill them without you showing a diving certification But now you have $1000's invested in what is still a 50 yd hunting gun at best
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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What do you guys think of this? Advantages? Disadvantages? SHIF folks killing game to live and such. For relatively silent killing I'd rather use a crossbow. Or if you have some empty plastic pop or water bottles use them as a one shot silencer on a .22 rifle.
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This thread takes the prize as the silliest of the week.
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