I put this up in the Classifieds, but thought I'd put here as well.
I've got the itch to get into black powder cartridge rifles, and would like to see if anyone has a Shiloh Sharps rifle they no longer need. I would consider others as well, C Sharps, Axtel, Pedersoli. Cash might work if mandatory, but I have a number of guns I'd trade towards the right rifle. Let me know what you have.
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I'm still waiting for my first Sharps to arrive and can only offer my best wishes, prayers, and condolences. That "itch" is about to become a life-consuming addiction.
Ed
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Mike, there was a nice 28" Saddle gun in 45-70 with shotgun butt at Shiloh, but it sold today. I'll check C Sharps, but it looks like they make more 1875s than anything else, and I don't like that style.
Hey, I don't care for the 1875 either but a fine '74 or a Highwall does catch my eye. What did you think of that Bridgeport Business Rifle? That's a .45/70 with a shotgun butt.
Ohhhh, anudder victim C'mon Biebs, the Darkside beckons! Seriously though, do you have a preference as to caliber?? The big guns(45/90,45/110,50/90,44/90) have an appetite for powder that is pure glutttony. Their appetite for lead ain't much less but I consider it to be worth it on both counts. Do what Too-Many-Letters did and go with the 45/90(2.4"). Great cartridge and hits hard!!! Keep your eyes open. You could have one materialize when you least expect it.
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ET, the temptation for a big boomer is certainly drawing me. I'm primarily an African hunter, so 577 NE, 505 Gibbs, 500 NE and 458 Lott are my usual toyz. I don't think the biggest of the BPCR rifles would be an issue, although certainly not for an afternoon of 40-50 rounds. I'll probably wind up with a 45-70 for general shooting, and a big boy to scratch that itch :-)
After reading your post, I was going to suggest anything in a 50-140, but TnC beat me to it. And, yes, I have shot a 50-140 once . . . only once .
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Ed, I hear you. What was the build time on your Sharps?
Jon
Jon, I cheated. I called Bill Goodman and bought one that he had pre-ordered. Current Shiloh wait is about 18 months.
BTW, E.T. is mistaken, I have a .45-70 (2 1/10") coming, not the 2.4".
Ed
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[quote=Otter]After reading your post, I was going to suggest anything in a 50-140, but TnC beat me to it. And, yes, I have shot a 50-140 once . . . only once . [/quote ]
WTF 50-140's are cheap to shoot, brass runs $3-$4.00 ea( lasts forever) primers cost the same, bullets about the same weight same cost, only get 45 to 46 rds to the pound but jeez, that is about all you can handle in a day of fun anyway.. You can hear the steel ring at 800 yds with your muffs on don't even need the remote radio and hey if you miss you can see that too not allways with those 40 cal & less whiner outfits. Got several thousand rounds thru mine. Only residual problems are behavior patterns that make you hang out with guys on the campfire..... Magnum Man
I fired a .577 Nitro. Once. Lovely rifle and a privilege to shoot, but...when one shot makes your teeth hurt, it's too much of a good thing...
Now a .50-70 or .50-90 might be interesting. Make bigger holes in the critters. I'm afeared my first shots with a .50-140 would have some amount of cream of wheat in the case...
I've had a couple of 500 and 577 NE rifles for Africa. I even had a 600 NE double by Verney Carron at one time, but it was way too heavy to carry for Elephant hunting, and I sold it before I hunted with it. I would think with a Galco pad on the butt and 130gr of FFG, the mighty 50-140 might just be manageable :-)
You don't load 50-140's down ,you load them up 146 grs Fg with a 570 gr ppb unless you got a tight twist and can use the heavy bullets. They shoot,it takes awhile to learn what makes them tick . These days I full length size mine to reduce the powder capacity to 146 grs when you just neck size them some brands of brass will hold 160+ grs. Some things in life you only need to experience once in a 10 lb 3 oz rifle. Magnum Man
Biebs, I didn't say without no compression . With Fg GOEX I use approx. .33-.38" depending on how thick a grease cookie I think I need to keep my fouling moist for the conditions I'm dealing with. Some are happy with a boom, I like it when it's cracking and dragon blood in the case mouth with good groups. AND NO these are not MOA loads but work for for as far as I shoot on living animals with irons. Was I to use a 50 on big African game it would be twisted tighter than mine is for 650 to 700 gr bullets. 38" drop tube packs the powder fine. MM
Got it. A 45-70 would certainly handle a Plains Game hunt anyway.
Yup, just ask sharpsguy. You can see part of one of his Africa hunt videos here;
Ed
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