Yes it's on a long action factory mtn Rifle and yes the price I started at is $1, 500. It's not a very easy one to find (I know, I collect them) and thanks for your comments. A new POS ss mtn cost over 1k and isn't offered in this caliber. So if you would like to make an offer, feel free. Thanks
Thanks for backing me up BobinNH, I have a bunch of 700s and theese guys that like to crap all over someone else's post had me second guessing so I checked it again and am 100% positive it is a long action.
If my 50+ year old memory is correct, I remember they were produced in the mid 90's. Should have got one then, I think wholesale (had an FFL) was around $500. My how things have gone up! New 700 MR's wholesale are now $807.99. But you ain't gonna find a new MR Bob so chambered. On these collectible rifles, the price is what someone is willing to pay for it. Sounds kinda obvious, but a lot of collectors have deep pockets and price is no object. Has anyone priced a NIB Colt Python lately!?
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Some people just don't understand why the bob is so desired in a long action.
Ok, I don't understand. Think you might enlighten me please?
1. Remington did not make very many .257s in long action. 2. The long does not limit your cartridge overall length therefor you can load you bullets much closer to the lands and grooves of the barrel than with a short action.
Some people just don't understand why the bob is so desired in a long action.
Ok, I don't understand. Think you might enlighten me please?
1. Remington did not make very many .257s in long action. 2. The long does not limit your cartridge overall length therefor you can load you bullets much closer to the lands and grooves of the barrel than with a short action.
Wrong. Remington has made hundreds and hundreds of .257s in long action. You can load bullets just as close to the lands and grooves in a short action as in a long action.
Your answers have nothing to do with why a long action might be preferable to a short action when both are chambered to 257 Roberts. There is nothing to be gained by having the 257 Roberts chambered in a long action vs a short action, excluding a lighter weight rifle. If the 257 Roberts is chambered in a long action you will be better of to have it rechambered to 25-06 where real velocity gains are possible.
Beware of thieves, scammers and dishonest members on the "Fire" classifieds. Ya there is a thief here too. Whatever!!
in other notes, there is a bdl on gunbroker in 257 roberts that is at 1300 with 6 days left, so i do not think hs price is far off iif it is new in box...a rifle is worth what the market bares, not what the 24hourcampfire says it is.....list it on gunbroker as a no reserve auction and it will do what it is worth, it is the biggest community of gun looneys you will find.
Doeslayer, Penguinloose, and 303 thank you all for the kind words and helping me to explain how rare and hard to find these are. You guys are good dudes!!! And yes lol I agree with you "go price a colt diamond back" well MSRP was like $300-$500 for a 2" 22lr. Find one now haha As far as MissouriEd, sir you need to go get a hobby other than bashing people's post! I checked your post and that is all you do is comment on others ad's and make pointless post of misinformed information! If you're not interested then Don't make negative comments on my post! Thank you.
Some people just don't understand why the bob is so desired in a long action.
When the cartridge came out there were few short actions,and things like the Rem 722 were still down the road.The cartridge isn't a real "short cartridge" but it isn't a 30/06 length either...kinda in between.Factory ammo had RN bullets(which back in the 30's were likely more accurate than full spitzer types),and semi spitzers,and were loaded to short OAL,so fit a short action.Except there were none I know of...until the Rem 722 came along that is, but not everyone had one of those.
M70's had boxed magazines(limiting OAL with spitzer bullets), and longish throats...today we would refer to all this as a "goat [bleep]"...you couldn't seat longish 117-120 gr spitzers without seating them very deeply, consuming powder space,and there was jump to the lands.
Bullets got better,gun writers like JOC and Warren Page(and others)used Mauser 98's and other longer actions to build rifles in 257 Roberts with a 3" OAL. Some M70 guys pulled the magazine boxes,seated 100,and 117-120 gr bullets out to about 3" OAL. This worked out much better with the powders of the day but required a longer action (30/06 length; there are not a lot of actions sized perfectly for that 57mm case).So......that's kinda of how we got to the 257 Roberts on a 30/06 length action.
On top of all these issues,factory ammo was anemic from the start (I've chronographed early Rem/Peters 117 RN ammo from 22 and 24" barrels and gotten about 2650 fps;100 gr stuff at under 2900 fps).Judicious hand loading could improve it considerably.
It's nice to lecture folks about the 25/06 but the problem is it didn't exist in factory form until the late 60's,as I recall(when I bought my first one).I never liked the cartridge in a 22" barrel;it's noisier than a Roberts and recoils more like a 270. Haven't had one in years.
I have had a slew of Roberts rifles,everything from pre 64 M70's and PF Featherweight to short(and long)action Rem 700's;mostly 22" barrels.Every Ruger I recall was on a long action.
With the 3" OAL, it was easy to get 3100-3200 fps with a 100 gr bullet;115 NPT will get over 3000 fps and a 120 gr bullet will hit over 2900 fps from 22" barrels...recoil is moderate, powder charges lighter than a 25/06.Look closely and you will see this about what factory ammo gets from the 25/06.
I hear you can do the same with 24" barrels and short actions but never owned that combo.What pressures were I have no idea,but friends and I all had them,used the rifles here on varmints and out west on many deer and antelope without any issues.
Most recently,a couple of Kimber rifles(short actions)using Mule Deer's load of 46 gr H4350 and 100 gr bullets gave 3050.
The cartridge dropped in popularity when the 6mm's came along in the 50's.Outfits like Ruger, Winchester,and Remington kept it alive with special runs here and there .
The OP's rifle is one of those "special runs" from the 90's as I recall.They probably put it on a long action because all the Roberts nuts from the old days would want to hand load for more juice... Not cataloged, it just showed up. I bought mine off the floor at the Kittery Trading Post in Kittery,Maine.I recall taking it to the gun counter and telling one of the clerks it had to be a mistake....Remington did not make them that way. He told me they were a "special run".
Most people don't even know it was ever made....but it was.I have not seen them since.I have owned the MR with the short action as well.
Anyhow that's the long action Roberts story the way I understood it.
The 257 was the second one in the classic series. The first was the 7x57. I see them for sale now and then, but they don't usually stay on the market long. I really like my 7x57.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
Thanks for backing me up BobinNH, I have a bunch of 700s and theese guys that like to crap all over someone else's post had me second guessing so I checked it again and am 100% positive it is a long action.
Didn't mean to get your panties in a wad. You have to understand where guys are coming from because the Mountain Rifle in .257 Bob "WAS" a short action. Maybe it would have been a good idea to mention it was a non-cataloged item. That would have stopped a lot of the "crapping on your post" before it started. I've seen my share of barreled actions stuck in other stocks and then claimed they were something they weren't.
Good luck with the sale. I personally don't think your price is too far off considering the craziness that things are going for these days.
No problem Tedder and yes it's probably my fault not explaining how rare this run of mtn rifles was and it is 100% a true factory remington 700 mtn rifle 257 Bob on a long action. Mtn rifle contour barrel with satin finish and not drilled for sights all original in original box.
No problem Tedder and yes it's probably my fault not explaining how rare this run of mtn rifles was and it is 100% a true factory remington 700 mtn rifle 257 Bob on a long action. Mtn rifle contour barrel with satin finish and not drilled for sights all original in original box.
A pic of the box label would be a nice addition to help with your sale.
$1,450 is a good price for this rifle. $1,500 was too! I'm surprised that it hasn't sold. Wish I wasn't in hot water over too many gun purchases with the little woman.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
Nice rifle. I have a Bob in a 722. the previous info is correct, however in the case of my rifle the action is not the limiting factor, rather it is the length of the round that the magazine will handle.
If I handload mine to the lands I have a single shot rifle. So I compromise.
Yes I can ship FFL to FFL, but prefer U.S. postal money order, unless you bank with bb&t then I will take personal check. I'm legit and not trying to scam anyone I assure you! I have done several deals with "srwshooter" and "reno" And "jmcdguns" if you need reference ask them about me or feel free to call me at 540-810-0096 I'm in Va. Thanks