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Time to put-up or shut-up, sure you have plenty of excuses not to put-up (you hate me, I just dont get it,you are wrong, you are wrong etc.) offer still stands for Sunday. come show me I dont know what I am talking about and that you can teach me something new
or..............shut the f@&! up.
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You give yourself too much credit. You're ignorant and too dumb to realize it. Your posts have proven that. Want to learn something, teach yoursownself. You're delusional thinking anybody would waste half a day for some dipsh*t they don't like. What you believe or don't believe isn't important.
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Time to put-up or shut-up, sure you have plenty of excuses not to put-up (you hate me, I just dont get it,you are wrong, you are wrong etc.) offer still stands for Sunday. come show me I dont know what I am talking about and that you can teach me something new
or..............shut the f@&! up. LMAO !!!!!!!!! Why don't you just make a bet with him Larry. That way you can just renege on it like you did with Bricktop. You are just an idiot for thinking that anyone on here gives a chit what you say or do.
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You are a Clown, This is what a Clown does. Not really a breaking NEWS flash.
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im ignorant and too dumb to realize it. I agree, you should stamp this on your forehead to warn others !! OUT on this topic......... you and schitty52 can keep playing if you like
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im ignorant and too dumb to realize it. I agree, you should stamp this on your forehead to warn others !! OUT on this topic......... you and schitty52 can keep playing if you like Now he's trying to be clever. Playing a little jr highschool change-the-quote game.
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boatanchor,
Back on April 14, I politely asked you for support for your position that Swifty52 was spouting misinformation when he stated that the 220 Swift and 22-250 AI were equal. I cited two published loading manuals that suggest the performance level of those two cartridges are,in fact, reasonably similar. For the last two weeks you have ignored my question and gone on a pizzin contest with others and refused to answer my question.
Do you have anything positive to offer in support of your statement or are you just interested in pizzin contests?
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"...fourth worst is the .22-250 Ackley with a 55 gr. bullet at 3850 fps. The factory .22-250 gets 3680 fps, which means the Ackley only gains 4.6% over the factory round "
TRUMP- GABBARD 2024
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boatanchor,
Back on April 14, I politely asked you for support for your position that Swifty52 was spouting misinformation when he stated that the 220 Swift and 22-250 AI were equal. I cited two published loading manuals that suggest the performance level of those two cartridges are,in fact, reasonably similar. For the last two weeks you have ignored my question and gone on a pizzin contest with others and refused to answer my question.
Do you have anything positive to offer in support of your statement or are you just interested in pizzin contests? My guess is he doesn't want to answer. Mid 70's early 80's we used Swift data for the 22.250 Ackley. Used what ya had, snail mail ya know.
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Chilluns, chilluns, chill.... Let's not forget a couple of things about the 22.250...it DOES stretch a little. It IS pretty warm for a 22 bore, Ackley or not. Overall, however, there's really nothing wrong with going AI especially if you get a better chamber or even a fresh throat with a re-cut. And if you are going to go with a faster twist and more bullet, the extra room allows more slowish powder. Besides, Ackleys just look cool.
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"...fourth worst is the .22-250 Ackley with a 55 gr. bullet at 3850 fps. The factory .22-250 gets 3680 fps, which means the Ackley only gains 4.6% over the factory round "
This stuff is always funny. Someone using quotes from somewhere to back up something that they otherwise don't know about. What matters is most accurate velocity, actual working load. Percentage gain? Only thing that matters is what's coming out of your gun, not theirs. My most accurate/fastest ever 50gr. 22-250 load is 300fps slower than my most accurate/fastest in an AI with 1" longer barrel.....both using the same powder and primer. Comes out to about a 7.7% gain.
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Out of my prized Rem 22-250 VSSF Version 1 I am pushing a 50g NBT at 3800fps over my chrony with a generous helping of Varget with great accuracy. This is my go to load for everything.........
...............xcept when I get a wild hair. I've looked at the 220 Swift and a 22-250AI but then I just throw a bunch of RL-7 under a 35g Hornady NXT and it runs an average of 4329fps again over my chrony. Then I start to think about how much I love that barrel and go back to the first load.
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Out of my prized Rem 22-250 VSSF Version 1 I am pushing a 50g NBT at 3800fps over my chrony with a generous helping of Varget with great accuracy. This is my go to load for everything.........
...............xcept when I get a wild hair. I've looked at the 220 Swift and a 22-250AI but then I just throw a bunch of RL-7 under a 35g Hornady NXT and it runs an average of 4329fps again over my chrony. Then I start to think about how much I love that barrel and go back to the first load. Next time you get a wild hair, might as well shoot the 24gr Hornady.....it has a terrible low BC also but only just a little worse than the 35 and at 11gr lighter you could really get them cranking. In my thrown-together junkyard dog Savage sporter truck gun, the working load is a good slug of RL15 and 50BT's @ 3925 with repeatable accuracy in the .3's and .4's. The fastest working load I've had in a std. 22-250. I looked at the 22-250AI in the late 80's and had to have one. Working load for that cartridge is a healthy dose of RL15 and 50BT's @ 4200 to 4247, depending on which gun. I'll choose the AI every time.
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To boatachnor's credit he did PM me and we had a civil exchange of information and opinions. I now better understand his original comments, but still think the 22-250 AI and the 220 Swift are reasonably similar in performance.
I shot a Rem 700 VS 22-250 for over two thousand rounds and then had the barrel chambered as a 22-250 AI. The primary benefit was to eliminate the need for trimming since I tend to load the AI version relatively mild rather than push it. I used the same brass for the AI version and now have at least six loadings on over 700 brass without trimming.
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I notice a lot of this when reading posts about AI and fast twist rifles. Especially the .224 bore size.
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I have a new Lilja 26", 12 twist in 22/250 AI with zero freebore.
My current load is with the 55g Nosler at 4050 fps and the 60g Nosler at 3700 fps, very tiny groups.
I neck size the cases with the above loads and will never have to trim them either.
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