Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Why so much hate for Corelokts?

Tough crowd this morning�.

No one has ever been so gracious with an offer to salvage my provincial ass. Can I borrow some bullets and a rifle?

Ive got a stainless synthetic 223AI Id trade off for one of your many old wood stocked sakos in a 222mag, if you are willing to also throw in some boot�.

Good to see you so nice this early.

I'm like the govt. I'm here to help��.

As soon as you screw I mean help Shrap you can forward me your Deuce

My deuce is going predator hunting in Texas this winter. You can't have it.

It showed in the Browning 50 cal when you asked if a gun had to kill people to be cool.


And here. Try tracking shiet in that rain and thick stuff after a bullet hasn't made it past the shoulder. Of course a Remington Core-loss is perfect for every situation, just like your wood/blue guns I guess...

I'll keep trying.

A non gun person would find this interesting, given the prevalent slang usage of deuce.

Trade?

I'm looking for a borrow...

Oh�then no problem�Ive got a couple of them to pic from. Just stop by anytime!


Factory ammo is a bitch to find, buttttt��.

The original Corelokts had, like the Peters Belted bullets, an inner "belt" , a thickening of the jacket, that served to hold things together and increase penetration. They were regarded, in the heavier weights like the 180 .30 cal, as the hot setup for big stuff like elk, moose and griz.

In 1998, I shot a good-sized 8-point whitetail through the shoulders with a 180 .30/06 Remington factory load at maybe 100 yards. He reared up like a horse and fell over backwards and was dead when we got to him. As it was very warm, and there was a tricky steep, descent to face, I didn't do much of a post-mortem, but there definitely wasn't an exit wound, which I thought was strange for a "moose bullet" used on a deer.

Some years later I read an article by Mule Deer that the inner belt had been abandoned as a cost-cutting measure. At a later date, I seem to recall reading that perhaps they never existed at all. If someone has some vintage Corelokt ammo and would be willing to sacrifice one for sectioning, we would know the truth.

As a side note, that buck was really rutted up, with a hugely swollen neck, and stunk to high heaven. It also provided some of the finest tasting venison I've ever had. So much for the fable that rutting bucks aren't good to eat; at least whitetails.

A good read....

I shoot the 180 s in 30 06 and never had anything but perfect bullet performance..

http://stevespages.com/jpg/bestbullet.jpg

"The Manuscript, The Best Hunting Bullet" compiles a bunch of data reference most 180 grain hunting bullets, in addition to at least one popular target bullet, tested for penetration and retained weight, with impact velocities measured in 100fps increments, for as slow as 1400fps to as fast as 3100fps. If one was interested in looking at comparative performance between Core-Lokt pointed 180s vs round nose 180s, or between those and most common as well as premiums, the bullet chart is most interesting. But, this relates to 180 grain 30cal bullets only, so it would apply to 30 caliber hunting cartridges from standard to magnum, shooting those bullets.

As for the Partition vs PTD-SP-CL vs RN-SP-CL vs A-Frame; even with impact velocities as fast as 3100fps, the Partition shank retains an avg. 125 grains and penetrates 17", the PTD-CL retains only 56 grains but the smaller diameter chunk penetrates 11 1/2 inches, the RN-CL holds together better retaining an avg. 123 grains and penetrates 12 inches, while the A-Frame retains 167 grains and penetrates 12.6 inches. You can follow the chart and see the point where the velocity is insufficient to disrupt the PTD-CL bullet, and you can follow this through the sweet spot to the point where the velocity is pushed to the point the PTD-CL begins to disintegrate. The RN-CL better holds together throughout the velocity range, but throughout the sweet spot for the PTD-CL, the RN-CL has reduced penetration due to the larger diameter. You can also see how the Partition shank retains mass in a smaller diameter compared to how the A-Frame maintains mass which reduces the penetration compared to the Partition, due to the larger diameter. Interesting stuff, being the work and expense involved to conduct these tests, with which valuable information can be gleaned for free.

I'd expect that such differences could be found, not only between PTD vs RN Core-Lokt 30 cal 180 grain bullets, but between different weights and different calibers. So I am one who believes that some who condemn the lot, are mistaken when they have issues with particular caliber and designs of Core-Lokts, and then apply their individual performance characteristics to each and every Core-Lokt bullet manufactured.

Best

Clyde

You will have to do a lot better if you want a "Flame war"

Corelokts are ok

not my go too

but ok

never had a real problem

But Iany bullet i have used

Snake

I don't hate them,I still have a bunch of 120 gr 6.5 mm bullets that I bought in bulk some 22 years ago. Works fine on every thing I am willing to shoot with a 6.5 x 55 and a 120 gr bullet. There are better bullets but at what cost are you willing to pay, yea they are not what they use to be, well a whole lot of things are not what they use to be either, for example in order to shoot squirrels this fall as I always do with a 22 RF. I have to get what amounts to is a CCW permit and pay a fee. Just do do what I have always done. and Since its 22 its also considered pistol ammo so there is more nonsense to put up with, that is if you can even find a box or two. We are loosing our liberties and all we can bitch about is Corelokt bullets and a made up premiss.

I've never bought any component Corelokt, and almost always hunt with handloads. One year though I decided at the last minute to take a .300 Savage, and bought Rem factory 150gr CL loads. They shot well.

The first doe I hit at ~80 yards. She was quartering slightly away, and the shot went behind the onside shoulder, and out through the opposite shoulder, leaving a hole about 2�-3" in diameter. Small deer, but I don't think even a big deer would have run far after that shot.

That was 20 years ago, and since then the corporate gurus at Rem may well have cut corners to cheapen the CL, but I think they probably still work fine on any deer, when launched at moderate velocity. Would I plan to use one for elk & moose? No