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BTDT, sort of.
A few years ago when Iowa went from each of the 99 sheriffs having absolute discretion as to who got a CW permit, to shall issue, the chiefs and sheriffs associations screamed bloody murder that their investigations would be compromised, they'd be forced to issue permits to dangerous persons, and the streets would run red. Yadda, yadda, and of course it didn't happen. Then and now, AFAIK, you also had to get a permit from the sheriff to even purchase a handgun.
I had face to face conversations with both the local sheriff and police chief, who are highly regarded in the community and, believe me, I wouldn't want either to have any significant say as to whether a person should have a gun. Very parochial, tunnel vision, and all about the interests of LE, officer safety, little regard for citizens' rights.
The chief looked me right in the eye and told me that, as a result of the revised CW law, he was certain his officers would have to shoot somebody.
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Police are not significantly different from one town to the next. That is why even the smallest departments send representative officers around the entire country to attend training events and funerals in order to associate as friends with those other departments.
I have been in all fifty states and lived in seven. I can tell you your first statement is wrong. So can I. This whole "people are the same everywhere" line of thinking is a lot of myth and hoooey. Getting together with people in the same business once or twice a year does not make a homogeneous group. Getting together every weekend...more likely. Who do you think your local guys are with weekly? So a carpenter from New York cuts a board looking over their shoulder with a mirro while one from texas cuts the board while facing it? BS. Occupations just aren't that different from one region to the next which is what would be necessary for police in one area to be as different as you all claim. Techniques and hardware are shared, but mindset varies by locality. A carpenter from New York may be more inclined to charge you double for the shoddy work than a carpenter from Texas. And a carpenter in New York has different codes to comply with than a carpenter from Texas. You must live in a small world to believe that people are the same just because their job looks the same to you from t he outside.
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So a carpenter from New York cuts a board looking over their shoulder with a mirro while one from texas cuts the board while facing it? BS. Occupations just aren't that different from one region to the next which is what would be necessary for police in one area to be as different as you all claim.
The police in Boston, NYC, Chitago, and such are a world apart from where I live. Trust me, I have been to all those places.
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Yeah, I know. The police chiefs in Mass are different than cops everywhere else. Right? Yeah.
They're certainly different than cops in my town. Travis Police are not significantly different from one town to the next. That is why even the smallest departments send representative officers around the entire country to attend training events and funerals in order to associate as friends with those other departments. Spoken like someone that has never travelled extensively in NJ,NY and MASS.
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So a carpenter from New York cuts a board looking over their shoulder with a mirro while one from texas cuts the board while facing it? BS. Occupations just aren't that different from one region to the next which is what would be necessary for police in one area to be as different as you all claim.
The police in Boston, NYC, Chitago, and such are a world apart from where I live. Trust me, I have been to all those places. Yeah - our cops don't even have the hardware those guys do - and don't feel the need for it. Sherps "all the same" comment is indeed the most ignorant thing I have read in a while.
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Police are not significantly different from one town to the next. That is why even the smallest departments send representative officers around the entire country to attend training events and funerals in order to associate as friends with those other departments.
Get that dick out of your mouth you fuggin' homo. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Sherps "all the same" comment is indeed the most ignorant thing I have read in a while.
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Why of course the CT. cops are the CT citizens friend.
Why do you think there have been no firearm related killings in CT. for years and years.
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You 2 can make fun of the statement since that is all you can do. What you can't do is show us many towns that do not send reps to IACP conferences or similar law enforcement get togethers which shows what indicates their views much better than your bogus claims. What you don't get, is that your point is meaningless. You think that participation in an occasional meeting by an industry group amounts to universal groupthink. If they spent a lot of time together at frequent intervals, that might be the case - but once or twice a year does not make a mindset. Once again, tell us the tale of the New York carpenter who works over his shoulder via a mirror while a Texas carpenter does not. How things are done just does not vary that much region to region/ Considering they go there for training and the fact they receive federal money that goes double on doing the same things the same way.
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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So can I. This whole "people are the same everywhere" line of thinking is a lot of myth and hoooey. Getting together with people in the same business once or twice a year does not make a homogeneous group. Getting together every weekend...more likely. Who do you think your local guys are with weekly?
So a carpenter from New York cuts a board looking over their shoulder with a mirro while one from texas cuts the board while facing it? BS. Occupations just aren't that different from one region to the next which is what would be necessary for police in one area to be as different as you all claim. Techniques and hardware are shared, but mindset varies by locality. A carpenter from New York may be more inclined to charge you double for the shoddy work than a carpenter from Texas. And a carpenter in New York has different codes to comply with than a carpenter from Texas. You must live in a small world to believe that people are the same just because their job looks the same to you from t he outside. No difference in quality and we see people like you representing every state in the country on yourube with yuor whiney ass police are abusing civilians videos.
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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Sherps "all the same" comment is indeed the most ignorant thing I have read in a while.
And once again tell us which states we have not seen making the youtube news with the whiney ass crying of people like you?
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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You 2 can make fun of the statement since that is all you can do. What you can't do is show us many towns that do not send reps to IACP conferences or similar law enforcement get togethers which shows what indicates their views much better than your bogus claims. What you don't get, is that your point is meaningless. You think that participation in an occasional meeting by an industry group amounts to universal groupthink. If they spent a lot of time together at frequent intervals, that might be the case - but once or twice a year does not make a mindset. Once again, tell us the tale of the New York carpenter who works over his shoulder via a mirror while a Texas carpenter does not. How things are done just does not vary that much region to region/ Considering they go there for training and the fact they receive federal money that goes double on doing the same things the same way. That makes two ignorant statements. Things are indeed done differently from region to region. Evenin the same state, carpenters do things differently from region to region. You mirror example is absurd. There are plenty of other differences.
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Sherps "all the same" comment is indeed the most ignorant thing I have read in a while.
And once again tell us which states we have not seen making the youtube news with the whiney ass crying of people like you? The difference is that in some states such incidents are news and in others they are business as usual. You don't get that?
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That is why even the smallest departments send representative officers around the entire country to attend training events and funerals in order to associate as friends with those other departments.
Donuts have a universal attraction you fu(king wierdo and the expenses incurred traveling back forth to the "training events" are passed on to the taxpaypers the next fiscal year.
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Police are not significantly different from one town to the next. That is why even the smallest departments send representative officers around the entire country to attend training events and funerals in order to associate as friends with those other departments.
Get that dick out of your mouth you fuggin' homo. Travis Why are you badmouthing me since your state has the kind of police I support(and other conservatives do as well) while you are ashamed of them and claim they are not there at all? ![[Linked Image]](http://i45.tinypic.com/24v1zl5.jpg)
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That is why even the smallest departments send representative officers around the entire country to attend training events and funerals in order to associate as friends with those other departments.
Donuts have a universal attraction you fu(king wierdo and the expenses incurred traveling back forth to the "training events" are passed on to the taxpaypers the next fiscal year. And the what they learned gets doled out to taxpayers the next year too. Win win.
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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Sherps "all the same" comment is indeed the most ignorant thing I have read in a while.
And once again tell us which states we have not seen making the youtube news with the whiney ass crying of people like you? The difference is that in some states such incidents are news and in others they are business as usual. You don't get that? Everyt state's officers are represented on youtube.
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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You 2 can make fun of the statement since that is all you can do. What you can't do is show us many towns that do not send reps to IACP conferences or similar law enforcement get togethers which shows what indicates their views much better than your bogus claims. What you don't get, is that your point is meaningless. You think that participation in an occasional meeting by an industry group amounts to universal groupthink. If they spent a lot of time together at frequent intervals, that might be the case - but once or twice a year does not make a mindset. Once again, tell us the tale of the New York carpenter who works over his shoulder via a mirror while a Texas carpenter does not. How things are done just does not vary that much region to region/ Considering they go there for training and the fact they receive federal money that goes double on doing the same things the same way. That makes two ignorant statements. Things are indeed done differently from region to region. Evenin the same state, carpenters do things differently from region to region. You mirror example is absurd. There are plenty of other differences. There are not the night and day differences you are insinuating.
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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Sherps "all the same" comment is indeed the most ignorant thing I have read in a while.
And once again tell us which states we have not seen making the youtube news with the whiney ass crying of people like you? To the best of my knowledge, nothing happens in South Dakota.
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The first time I shot myself in the head...
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