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None taken. Again, I'm not saying its OK to be complacent, just that these screwballs don't have a snowball's chance.

The goal is to get every 'American' lumped together in a dozen or so mega-cities.

Lot easier to control critters when penned up.

The goal is to get every 'American' lumped together in a dozen or so mega-cities.

Lot easier to control critters when penned up.

Are you just sticking your head in the sand, or are you actually that misinformed?

Are you just sticking your head in the sand, or are you actually that misinformed?

You'd be surprised what I do to stop the groups.

I serve on two boards of directors dedicated to defending hunting rights or wildlife management, I engage the environmental terrorists with science that disproves their emotions and lies at the levels that do some good, like Game Commission meetings. I also write for two nationally distributed magazines, and never miss the chance to mention the fight in my articles.

I also participate and sponsor events that educate our youth about guns, hunting, trapping, and the like. My favorite of these events are where they bring city kids out into the wilderness, that otherwise would not have the chance to learn.

I have also engaged the opposing side of radical environmental terrorists in national radio talk shows. They hate facts, and hate to see me coming...

I also participate politically with the procedure in which our leaders and elected officials are chosen. This is important on a local level too. Local politics, and the people that don't know the difference need to be educated before they vote... Not be stuck with the idiots for years after they elect them.

So, I think I may contribute at least what I can to the fight.... I could ask the same question of you.

I don't think things are as rosy as you paint them as far as gun rights and hunting privileges.

Ground lost will never be regained.

But, I'm hopeful that people do wake up and smell the coffee before all is lost.

From 2011

Perspective: Animal rights group has infiltrated California Department of Fish and Game.

http://www.wonews.com/t-PerspectiveReport_AnimalRights_102011.aspx

From 2011

Perspective: Animal rights group has infiltrated California Department of Fish and Game.

http://www.wonews.com/t-PerspectiveReport_AnimalRights_102011.aspx

They did in NM as well when Bill Richardson was governor and appointed 3 animal rights activists to the Game Commission. 2 of which were illegal appointments because they had to be appointed from different areas of the state and they weren't. Suzanna Martinez cleaned them out though, and we got a new Director of the NMG&F replacing the animal rights guy Richardson had in there.

I fight to keep politics OUT of game management...

4ager. New Mexicans for Proactive Wildlife Predator Management and two Cattleman's Associations.

OK, so what are you doing? Besides preaching to the choir here.

Personally, I think the tide is turning. More and more people are realizing that hunting is not a bad thing and more people are hunting, for different reasons than in the past.

More people are shooting too. A fancy new indoor gun club just opened up nearby, catering to an upscale clientele. Business is booming, no pun intended. That wouldn't have happened 20 years ago.

The DC gun ban was just overturned.

Having said all that, this is no time to be complacent. Everyone needs to do their part, and the best thing is to get more people interested in and participating in hunting.

But as far as these kooks getting their way and substituting predators for hunters, it'll never happen. Because none of their ideas will work, and people are smart enough to know that. Birth control is not feasible, and neither is having large populations of predators anywhere except in the wilderness. Agriculture would cease to exist if we eliminated hunting.

Yes, we all need to do our part, but it involves promoting everything that is good about hunting and shooting, and getting more people into these pursuits.

The half-baked plan of these nut-jobs don't stand a chance. They say hunting is "unnatural" while promoting prey species control by predators. The general public is smart enough to see through that. After all, most people eat meat.

OK, so what are you doing? Besides preaching to the choir here.

Personally, I think the tide is turning. More and more people are realizing that hunting is not a bad thing and more people are hunting, for different reasons than in the past.

More people are shooting too. A fancy new indoor gun club just opened up nearby, catering to an upscale clientele. Business is booming, no pun intended. That wouldn't have happened 20 years ago.

The DC gun ban was just overturned.

Having said all that, this is no time to be complacent. Everyone needs to do their part, and the best thing is to get more people interested in and participating in hunting.

But as far as these kooks getting their way and substituting predators for hunters, it'll never happen. Because none of their ideas will work, and people are smart enough to know that. Birth control is not feasible, and neither is having large populations of predators anywhere except in the wilderness. Agriculture would cease to exist if we eliminated hunting.

Yes, we all need to do our part, but it involves promoting everything that is good about hunting and shooting, and getting more people into these pursuits.

The half-baked plan of these nut-jobs don't stand a chance. They say hunting is "unnatural" while promoting prey species control by predators. The general public is smart enough to see through that. After all, most people eat meat.

ingwe,

Keep in mind that the agenda is gun confiscation, which I can't rule out in my lifetime.

Moreover, since oppressive political constructs always arise from the left, should emotional wildlife "management" be adopted, expect severe penalties for poaching; e.g., felonies and loss of what gun rights might remain.

I used to have a game warden friend who's now in Heaven. He hated Morgan Fairchild because she duped easily duped CA voters to enact via initiative our state's mountain lion hunting ban. He was adamant that wildlife management is a science, not an emotion. Being a hunter himself, he was extremely supportive of hunting RIGHTS. He also told me to take my handgun when I hiked/fished certain areas. He told me that I always had the right to protect my life.

American voters are the most gullible (read: stupid) voters in the world.

4ager. New Mexicans for Proactive Wildlife Predator Management and two Cattleman's Associations.

"Ever wonder where the Communist party disappeared to? ...

You have no clue of how successful half-baked plans of nut-jobs have been and will be.

Smokepole, I know what side of the river you are on. We have had that discussion here before.

You and your bud's are government employees that oppose multiple use of public land.

You ARE the enemy. Yet, with all that has been documented about the plans of the radical environmental groups to take the west from public use, and use the same old government agencies to enforce that land grab, and denying people the rights and privileges they have enjoyed on public lands,.... you still deny that there are drastic efforts to do exactly that?

You ARE the problem.