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Hey John: The next time you talk with Craig "I-Like-A-Cannon" Boddington, tell him that he needs to tread lightly on the legend and legacy of WDM Bell!!  Actually, he wrote an interesting article in the current issue of G&A. I'm still trying figure out, though, how he figures that Bell didn't shoot 1000+ elephants with the .275. I'm not saying he did or didn't, but is CB saying that his total with all rifles was 1000+, not just the .275? Somehow I missed how he explained it in the article. I'll post a picture of the first big old boar I shoot DRT with my new Boddington No 1 in 7x57. You can forward it to him and tell him "little guns" work just fine on big old pigs. 
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I remember Bell saying in print that he slew 800 some Bull Elephants with his .275 Rigby alone. Of course he killed a passel of them with his .256 Mann. and .318 WR, and .450/400 as well putting his lifetime total around 2K as I remember.
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Not to mention all the Game Bell killed with a 7x57
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. . . putting his lifetime total around 2K as I remember. Which is a boatload!
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Not to mention all the Game Bell killed with a 7x57 Of course. How could we forget that!???
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It is a well know fact that all game animals have become tougher since the Interweb was invented. You are not a man, nor a hunter if you don't shoot somthing with the word "magnum" in it.
Face facts - the 7 mauser, 7x08, 6.5swede and all other "mild" cartridges will not penetrate, nor kill any game animal in these modern times......
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Not to mention all the Game Bell killed with a 7x57 I can't remember if Bell killed more elephant with a .275 Rigby or a 7X57? Somebody help me out.
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Not to mention all the Game Bell killed with a 7x57 I can't remember if Bell killed more elephant with a .275 Rigby or a 7X57? Somebody help me out. I think he used the Rigby when hunting in English colonies, the Mauser when hunting in German/Dutch ones.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Okay! Whatever happened to Boom Boom????
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Not to mention all the Game Bell killed with a 7x57 I can't remember if Bell killed more elephant with a .275 Rigby or a 7X57? Somebody help me out. I think he used the Rigby when hunting in English colonies, the Mauser when hunting in German/Dutch ones. Good show, Old Bean!
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Okay! Whatever happened to Boom Boom???? Craig "Boom Boom" Boddington?
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Rev: you left out a buttload of elephant he killed with a pair of .303s�.
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No, Bell's Mauser Broomhandle with accompanying shoulder stock! The locals named it "Boom Boom".
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No, Bell's Mauser Broomhandle with accompanying shoulder stock! The locals named it "Boom Boom". I had forgotten Boom Boom !
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I'm sure that took an elephant too!!
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Rev: you left out a buttload of elephant he killed with a pair of .303s�. Yep, he did. CB's article talks about two .416s that he ordered from Rigby.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Bell must have had HUGE Cahones to walk right in amongst a big herd of elephants and start blasting away with brain shots and a pee shooter like that. Got to admire the man for his courage!
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It is a well know fact that all game animals have become tougher since the Interweb was invented. You are not a man, nor a hunter if you don't shoot somthing with the word "magnum" in it.
Face facts - the 7 mauser, 7x08, 6.5swede and all other "mild" cartridges will not penetrate, nor kill any game animal in these modern times......
Actually, the movement was well underway in the '60's (maybe before, but that's when I started reading magazines.) "It makes a helluva noise; it packs a helluva wallop."
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JA Hunter said Bell picked off his elephants at a distance. He said in Bell's day the elephants were found on the open plains and Bell didn't get up close and personal with them the way JA Hunter had to in his day. He also said Bell tried to recreate his success later in life (with his .275)after the elephants had changed their habits to being more forest dwellers and the safari was a dismal failure and Bell was lucky to escape with his life.
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JA Hunter said Bell picked off his elephants at a distance. He said in Bell's day the elephants were found on the open plains and Bell didn't get up close and personal with them the way JA Hunter had to in his day. He also said Bell tried to recreate his success later in life (with his .275)after the elephants had changed their habits to being more forest dwellers and the safari was a dismal failure and Bell was lucky to escape with his life. this....the habits that elephants had were different when Bell was hunting....as above they changed within his lifetime....Bell killed a slew with the 7x57 but he was shooting them at alot farther distances than the guys that came after him.....he wasnt using the 7x57 at powder burn ranges in the thick stuff like the guys that came after him....
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