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do I need to point out the grammatical error? or is that racist?

"Only in a police state is the job of a policeman easy." ~ Orson Welles

He can't see that from his mommy's basement though

Or could it be that some of us recognize that you can on the one hand say that there are disturbing trends in LE these days while at the same time appreciating (even more!!) the good ones we do have?

Exceptions don't disprove rules. Just because there are (many!!) excellent officers of the law out there does not mean we aren't witnessing a sea change in the industry that is extraordinarily disturbing for those who love individual liberty and the rule of law vs "might makes right".

Furthermore, LEs here on this site (the majority of whom seem to me to be exceptional) need not take it personally. I am a banker, but don't take it personally when the very legitimate concerns are raised here about the unfortunate direction my industry is heading. Indeed I bear witness to it every day and do what I can to slow the trend, so I don't take it as an attack when someone here criticizes bankers.

BTW, the exact quote that you have used repeatedly was uttered by Charleton Heston to Orson Welles in the movie A Touch of Evil, directed by Welles, but written by someone else entirely.

It was: "A policeman's job is only easy in a police state."

In context, it was said by good cop Heston in response to bad cop Welles, after learning Welles, who planted evidence to get an arrest, claimed the job was too tough already.

Heston's precursor to that was that the job is supposed to be tough if it is to be done proper.

It's more of a rally cry for cops not to take the easy way out.


I'm sure that most folks reading both lines notice the subtle differences in the message conveyed by the juxtaposition of the wording, and I suspect that the version you're using was changed in context by an agendized zealot.


However, it is possible that during one of Welles' many commentaries on his work, he may have rephrased the statement, quite possibly and probably accompanied with his opinion that the greatest weakness of America is rhetoric - of which you are overwhelmingly full of.

I have suspected Welles meant "bullshit" when he said "rhetoric", just to be polite. But either way, he's got you pegged.

Catchy pic to bolster my point:




or this:




Awwww. It's a puppy....

Congrats on one of the most non-sensical, circular posts ever. A bunch of nothing.

This is a serious question: how many here actually read the article rather than reacting to the title?

Seriously... Show of hands...

That's what happened in Montreal....but it was more like 24 hours.

Or could it be that some of us recognize that you can on the one hand say that there are disturbing trends in LE these days while at the same time appreciating (even more!!) the good ones we do have?

Exceptions don't disprove rules. Just because there are (many!!) excellent officers of the law out there does not mean we aren't witnessing a sea change in the industry that is extraordinarily disturbing for those who love individual liberty and the rule of law vs "might makes right".

Furthermore, LEs here on this site (the majority of whom seem to me to be exceptional) need not take it personally. I am a banker, but don't take it personally when the very legitimate concerns are raised here about the unfortunate direction my industry is heading. Indeed I bear witness to it every day and do what I can to slow the trend, so I don't take it as an attack when someone here criticizes bankers.

Good post.....not a lot I would argue.

That said, I doubt most of the LEOs here take much personally. I would Damn near guarantee that nothing that Sherp/Rovering/etc. posts even bumps the needle.

I see a lot of statements such as "we need to corral the goats", etc. Unless the poster is from the jurisdiction that writes my check, I personally don't care what their opinion are relative to my job performance. Similarly, I'm still trying to figure out how my agency is "militarized" when we have nothing in our cruisers or on our belts that isn't available to anyone in the State of NH.

When the folks in my AO, hell I'll stretch as far as the folks in NH, want changes I'll listen. I'm not likely to modify my performance based on some cartoons and anonymous postings.

George

Congrats on one of the most non-sensical, circular posts ever. A bunch of nothing.

Wow. So when that guy previously cited in this thread got caught choking out a handcuffed, subservient suspect it was the fault of the camera because without it he could have done that and then denied it effectively?

Could it be that police were once revered and respected because they were, on the whole, worthy of such by their participation in rather than management of the communities they served?

As if yer sig line didn't say enough about your love of the soon to arrive police state, that right there is proof positive.

So just to be clear... It's ok in your eyes to choke out a guy who is kneeling in front of you handcuffed?