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1911's and hollow points #9153735 09/04/14 Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland leomort OP Campfire Regular OP leomort Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland Do modern 1911's feed hollow point ammunition reliably? Have you found any particular brand to be problematic or perhaps ones that feed more reliably? Or is this going to be a trail and error thing find the right ammo that feeds reliably? This could get very expensive trying to find the right self defense ammo. A side question. 45acps are pretty slow. Is there enough velocity there to allow the hollow point to expand? Thanks for your feedback!

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9153761 09/04/14 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 69,194 TX chlinstructor Campfire Kahuna chlinstructor Campfire Kahuna Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 69,194 TX Yes they do! And Speer GoldDots are hard to beat for the money! "Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!" ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: 1911's and hollow points chlinstructor #9153843 09/04/14 Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 991 Michigan R RWL99 Campfire Regular RWL99 Campfire Regular R Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 991 Michigan Barnes 185gr TAC-XPD "We live in the present, we dream of the future, but we learn eternal truths from the past"

Re: 1911's and hollow points RWL99 #9153967 09/04/14 Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,780 SE Neb R rainierrifleco Campfire Tracker rainierrifleco Campfire Tracker R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,780 SE Neb Most problems with a 1911 feeding a HP is in the A 1. It was specifitly designed for hard ball and feed ramp on some may need some work.. It is kind of a crap shoot some feed fine and some won't feed at all. I have mine feeding empty cases. I did buy a colt 1911 in 40 S&W. that wouldn't feed anything. I got it cheap and worked it over..

Re: 1911's and hollow points rainierrifleco #9154071 09/05/14 Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 17,108 MonDak V viking Campfire Ranger viking Campfire Ranger V Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 17,108 MonDak Well I bought the RIA 1911a1, so far it has eaten Blazer and plain old Remington 230 jhps. I got lucky i guess.

Re: 1911's and hollow points viking #9154083 09/05/14 Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 477 minnesota I iblong Campfire Member iblong Campfire Member I Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 477 minnesota The only one that gave me problems was my Colt XSE commander. That one would not even feed ball ammo reliably.Three trips to the Smith did not cure it so it went down the road at a major loss.Both my Kimbers will feed anything I've tried.I* prefer XTP and Gold dots. Last edited by iblong; 09/05/14.

Re: 1911's and hollow points iblong #9154135 09/05/14 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 7,530 Western NY H hikerbum Campfire Outfitter hikerbum Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 7,530 Western NY the short barrel ones can have feeing issues. I found Remington Golden Sabers feed fine in those though.

Re: 1911's and hollow points chlinstructor #9154155 09/05/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State Originally Posted by chlinstructor Yes they do! And Speer GoldDots are hard to beat for the money! Leo- So far, this is the only good post here. But, there are other bullets that work well also. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9154196 09/05/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,140 WI. R Redneck Campfire Kahuna Redneck Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,140 WI. Originally Posted by leomort Do modern 1911's feed hollow point ammunition reliably? Have you found any particular brand to be problematic or perhaps ones that feed more reliably? Or is this going to be a trail and error thing find the right ammo that feeds reliably? This could get very expensive trying to find the right self defense ammo. A side question. 45acps are pretty slow. Is there enough velocity there to allow the hollow point to expand? Thanks for your feedback! Some do - some don't.. Some that don't can be made to feed better with some magazine tweaks.. I've been lucky. All my Kimbers feed very well; I don't recall a misfeed at this time.. I have been using Hornday XTPs in all my .45s.. Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69 Pro-Constitution. LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

Re: 1911's and hollow points chlinstructor #9154252 09/05/14 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,409 West Virginia O OldRooster Campfire Tracker OldRooster Campfire Tracker O Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,409 West Virginia Originally Posted by chlinstructor Yes they do! And Speer GoldDots are hard to beat for the money! Yes.

Re: 1911's and hollow points viking #9154255 09/05/14 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,409 West Virginia O OldRooster Campfire Tracker OldRooster Campfire Tracker O Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,409 West Virginia Originally Posted by viking Well I bought the RIA 1911a1, so far it has eaten Blazer and plain old Remington 230 jhps. I got lucky i guess. My Rocks have run very well with everything. They're a lot of pistol for the money.

Re: 1911's and hollow points rainierrifleco #9154636 09/05/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota JOG Campfire Outfitter JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota Originally Posted by rainierrifleco Most problems with a 1911 feeding a HP is in the A 1. It was specifitly designed for hard ball and feed ramp on some may need some work. Utter BS and responsible for more f'd up 1911s than any other hack. Proper 1911 function with varying bullet profiles is based on magazine release timing. Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

Re: 1911's and hollow points JOG #9154651 09/05/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State Originally Posted by JOG Originally Posted by rainierrifleco Most problems with a 1911 feeding a HP is in the A 1. It was specifitly designed for hard ball and feed ramp on some may need some work. Utter BS and responsible for more f'd up 1911s than any other hack. Proper 1911 function with varying bullet profiles is based on magazine release timing. Agree. But that is just some of the BS that has been said on this thread so far. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points Gibby #9154657 09/05/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota JOG Campfire Outfitter JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota I only have so much time. Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

Re: 1911's and hollow points Gibby #9154659 09/05/14 Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 4ager Campfire Ranger 4ager Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 Most modern 1911s (and a LOT of the older ones) feed and function with the current JHPs just fine. That has a good bit to do with engineering on both sides (firearm and ammunition). The JHPs for .45ACP are designed to work at those velocities, and they work really well. The GoldDots, GoldenSabres, HSTs, SXTs, Xs, and the rest, including the cheaper "white box" Winchesters and similar, all do just fine. Handle several, find the one that fits you best, buy it, fire several hundred rounds to break it in and get familiar with it, and carry on. This schit is only as hard as you make it. Originally Posted by Mannlicher America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.

Re: 1911's and hollow points 4ager #9154688 09/05/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota JOG Campfire Outfitter JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota JHP, hard ball, truncated, or a hello kitty bullet tip have nothing to do with function. The key is cartridge length from base to ogive. A break in of "several hundred rounds" is a personal choice, which trusts everything to chance, so knock yourself out. There are more efficient ways. I generally have things sorted out under 50 rounds. Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

Re: 1911's and hollow points JOG #9154709 09/05/14 Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 4ager Campfire Ranger 4ager Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 Agreed, thus the comment about the engineering on both sides having to do with feeding reliability. You might have one sorted out that fast. Others may as well. The OP sounds like he hasn't had one before. It might just take some more rounds to get as sorted out. Originally Posted by Mannlicher America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.

Re: 1911's and hollow points JOG #9154831 09/05/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State Originally Posted by JOG I only have so much time. Ditto Let's see how it goes. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points Gibby #9155339 09/05/14 Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland leomort OP Campfire Regular OP leomort Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland 4ager, You are correct. I am a newbie to 1911s. I bought federal blue box 230g hp self-defense ammo just to see how it runs in my 1911. My info has been from the web via google searches. The internet is great but also has drawbacks in that some myths, etc keep getting perpetuated.

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9155400 09/05/14 Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 4ager Campfire Ranger 4ager Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 That stuff would be fine. Originally Posted by Mannlicher America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9155448 09/05/14 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 20,379 The Bozone, Montana Rancho_Loco Campfire Ranger Rancho_Loco Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 20,379 The Bozone, Montana Originally Posted by leomort 4ager, You are correct. I am a newbie to 1911s. I bought federal blue box 230g hp self-defense ammo just to see how it runs in my 1911. My info has been from the web via google searches. The internet is great but also has drawbacks in that some myths, etc keep getting perpetuated. Just this forum alone is enough to perpetuate every scare story and rumor known to the world. Originally Posted by captain seafire I replace valve cover gaskets every 50K, if they don't need them sooner...

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9155454 09/05/14 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 20,379 The Bozone, Montana Rancho_Loco Campfire Ranger Rancho_Loco Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 20,379 The Bozone, Montana Originally Posted by leomort 4ager, You are correct. I am a newbie to 1911s. I bought federal blue box 230g hp self-defense ammo just to see how it runs in my 1911. My info has been from the web via google searches. The internet is great but also has drawbacks in that some myths, etc keep getting perpetuated. I also bet you heard not to run handloads in a SD weapon.. Originally Posted by captain seafire I replace valve cover gaskets every 50K, if they don't need them sooner...

Re: 1911's and hollow points 4ager #9155475 09/05/14 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 21,317 Alaska / Saudi Arabia 458 Lott Campfire Ranger 458 Lott Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 21,317 Alaska / Saudi Arabia Just like the question of what's the best 22rf match ammo, you gotta try it in your gun. The good thing about a 45 is even if the hp doesn't expand, it already started out 45 cal and the hp is essentially a pretty decent meplat.

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9155496 09/05/14 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,661 NW Nevada GunGeek Campfire Ranger GunGeek Campfire Ranger Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,661 NW Nevada Originally Posted by leomort Do modern 1911's feed hollow point ammunition reliably? Have you found any particular brand to be problematic or perhaps ones that feed more reliably? Or is this going to be a trail and error thing find the right ammo that feeds reliably? This could get very expensive trying to find the right self defense ammo. A side question. 45acps are pretty slow. Is there enough velocity there to allow the hollow point to expand? Thanks for your feedback! All modern manufactured 1911's have barrels that are properly throated for hollow points. Hollow point feeding shouldn't be a problem.

Re: 1911's and hollow points JOG #9155526 09/05/14 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,661 NW Nevada GunGeek Campfire Ranger GunGeek Campfire Ranger Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,661 NW Nevada Originally Posted by JOG Originally Posted by rainierrifleco Most problems with a 1911 feeding a HP is in the A 1. It was specifitly designed for hard ball and feed ramp on some may need some work. Utter BS and responsible for more f'd up 1911s than any other hack. Proper 1911 function with varying bullet profiles is based on magazine release timing. Not always my observation. I've encountered GI 1911's that had problems with the flatter JHP's regardless of magazine. Barrel throating does aid in feeding of the flatter bullets. But in general, what you said goes for over 90% of pistols/bullets...most times it's the magazine.

Re: 1911's and hollow points GunGeek #9155546 09/05/14 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,739 mountains of central PA gunchamp Campfire Outfitter gunchamp Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,739 mountains of central PA Originally Posted by GunGeek Originally Posted by leomort Do modern 1911's feed hollow point ammunition reliably? Have you found any particular brand to be problematic or perhaps ones that feed more reliably? Or is this going to be a trail and error thing find the right ammo that feeds reliably? This could get very expensive trying to find the right self defense ammo. A side question. 45acps are pretty slow. Is there enough velocity there to allow the hollow point to expand? Thanks for your feedback! All modern manufactured 1911's have barrels that are properly throated for hollow points. Hollow point feeding shouldn't be a problem. This. If you buy a 1911 that doesn't feed hollow points, send it back. Feeding is a thing of the past when it comes to the 1911. They are extremely reliable!

Re: 1911's and hollow points GunGeek #9155548 09/05/14 Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland leomort OP Campfire Regular OP leomort Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland Rancho Loco, YES! Believe it or not, I heard that you shouldn't use handloads/reloads for self defense. Think I heard that info link to Massad Ayoob? I see we heard the same rumor, lol!

Re: 1911's and hollow points chlinstructor #9155552 09/05/14 Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 3,034 Kentucky W woods_walker Campfire Tracker woods_walker Campfire Tracker W Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 3,034 Kentucky Originally Posted by chlinstructor Yes they do! And Speer GoldDots are hard to beat for the money! Never have had an issue after 500/1000 rounds of initial shooting to sort out a new pistol. Good magazines (for me Wilson) help a bunch. Gold Dots are a favorite. Run the gun and see for yourself.

Re: 1911's and hollow points woods_walker #9155599 09/05/14 Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland leomort OP Campfire Regular OP leomort Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland Speaking of the internet and 1911s. Anybody see that youtube video by James Yeager: "1911s suck"? Interesting opinions, yes?

Re: 1911's and hollow points GunGeek #9155607 09/05/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota JOG Campfire Outfitter JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota Originally Posted by GunGeek Originally Posted by JOG Originally Posted by rainierrifleco Most problems with a 1911 feeding a HP is in the A 1. It was specifitly designed for hard ball and feed ramp on some may need some work. Utter BS and responsible for more f'd up 1911s than any other hack. Proper 1911 function with varying bullet profiles is based on magazine release timing. Not always my observation. I've encountered GI 1911's that had problems with the flatter JHP's regardless of magazine. Barrel throating does aid in feeding of the flatter bullets. But in general, what you said goes for over 90% of pistols/bullets...most times it's the magazine. My statement is based on 1911 design and proper execution of the design. The 10% (or whatever) that you say operate differently are out of spec or of different design. Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9155653 09/05/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State Originally Posted by leomort Rancho Loco, YES! Believe it or not, I heard that you shouldn't use handloads/reloads for self defense. Think I heard that info link to Massad Ayoob? I see we heard the same rumor, lol! I think most of this is if you get an aggressive liberal attorney (prosecutor/civil) against you they will try to portray you as a "load your own gun nut". In front of 12 jurors (peers)that don't handload themselves. Your defense most recommended is to use the same as the local police. I do not buy in to that much. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points GunGeek #9155678 09/05/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State FTF's (not Gun related) Look at: #1 Magazine profile, quality ( some need to be broken in) #2 Ammo #3 Dirt #4 Limp wristing FTF's (gun related) [after break end] Look at: #1 Ramp #2 Chamber Opening ( a lot of jambs are at the top of the opening [magazine influence combined with also]) #3 Rough breech face #4 Extractor clearance (while your at it, look at the hook profile) #5 Spring balanced with load #6 slide velocity ( part of gun balancing) Then it gets down to quality, metal burs, individual parts, etc. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points Gibby #9155688 09/05/14 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 20,379 The Bozone, Montana Rancho_Loco Campfire Ranger Rancho_Loco Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 20,379 The Bozone, Montana Originally Posted by Gibby Originally Posted by leomort Rancho Loco, YES! Believe it or not, I heard that you shouldn't use handloads/reloads for self defense. Think I heard that info link to Massad Ayoob? I see we heard the same rumor, lol! I think most of this is if you get an aggressive liberal attorney (prosecutor/civil) against you they will try to portray you as a "load your own gun nut". In front of 12 jurors (peers)that don't handload themselves. Your defense most recommended is to use the same as the local police. I do not buy in to that much. It has never happened, and is only the byproduct of basement dwellers spending way too much time on the internet, or in front of super market magazine racks while mom is shopping. Originally Posted by captain seafire I replace valve cover gaskets every 50K, if they don't need them sooner...

Re: 1911's and hollow points Rancho_Loco #9155718 09/05/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State I use my handloads in all my carry weapons. I do not read gun magazines anymore. My mom is dead Forgot one thing....... GFY Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points viking #9155743 09/05/14 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 44,222 south of south local_dirt Campfire 'Bwana local_dirt Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 44,222 south of south Originally Posted by viking Well I bought the RIA 1911a1, so far it has eaten Blazer and plain old Remington 230 jhps. I got lucky i guess. I don't think your results are strictly the result of luck. That RIA 1911 platform looks like pretty darn good bang for the buck. Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH

Re: 1911's and hollow points Gibby #9155762 09/05/14 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 20,379 The Bozone, Montana Rancho_Loco Campfire Ranger Rancho_Loco Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 20,379 The Bozone, Montana Originally Posted by Gibby I use my handloads in all my carry weapons. I do not read gun magazines anymore. My mom is dead Forgot one thing....... GFY You left out the basement part. Busted! Originally Posted by captain seafire I replace valve cover gaskets every 50K, if they don't need them sooner...

Re: 1911's and hollow points local_dirt #9155763 09/05/14 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 20,379 The Bozone, Montana Rancho_Loco Campfire Ranger Rancho_Loco Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 20,379 The Bozone, Montana Buy 1911 Run whatever you get your hands on Assess results Proceed accordingly That's how I did/do it. Originally Posted by captain seafire I replace valve cover gaskets every 50K, if they don't need them sooner...

Re: 1911's and hollow points Gibby #9155782 09/05/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota JOG Campfire Outfitter JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota Originally Posted by Gibby FTF's (gun related) [after break end] Look at: #1 Ramp #2 Chamber Opening ( a lot of jambs are at the top of the opening [magazine influence combined with also]) #3 Rough breech face #4 Extractor clearance (while your at it, look at the hook profile) #5 Spring balanced with load #6 slide velocity ( part of gun balancing) Then it gets down to quality, metal burs, individual parts, etc. Why wait until after break in? Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

Re: 1911's and hollow points JOG #9156082 09/05/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State You do not really have too. Just keep it the back of your mind if you are getting FTF's on an occasional basis, and nothing else stands out. I would not modify anything drastic with just a few loads through the gun. Test different loads, magazines. If you are to carry the gun, then a longer history of no FTF's is needed. Carry with the proven ammo, magazine. All that good stuff. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points Gibby #9156099 09/05/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota JOG Campfire Outfitter JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota Gibby, It was a rhetorical question. IMO, every firearm that's going to be a shooter should get that type of treatment before firing a single round. Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

Re: 1911's and hollow points JOG #9156103 09/05/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State yep, for sure. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9156999 09/06/14 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,739 mountains of central PA gunchamp Campfire Outfitter gunchamp Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,739 mountains of central PA Originally Posted by leomort Speaking of the internet and 1911s. Anybody see that youtube video by James Yeager: "1911s suck"? Interesting opinions, yes? I did and I think mr glock 19 is an idiot Last edited by gunchamp; 09/06/14.

Re: 1911's and hollow points Rancho_Loco #9157000 09/06/14 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,739 mountains of central PA gunchamp Campfire Outfitter gunchamp Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,739 mountains of central PA Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco Buy 1911 Run whatever you get your hands on Assess results Proceed accordingly That's how I did/do it. Simple but the best advice so far

Re: 1911's and hollow points iblong #9157377 09/06/14 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,888 Deer Park, Tx R Reloder28 Campfire Ranger Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,888 Deer Park, Tx Originally Posted by iblong The only one that gave me problems was my Colt XSE commander. That one would not even feed ball ammo reliably.Three trips to the Smith did not cure it.... This is the reason I wouldn't dare own a Colt 1911 again. All they have ever done is sell their name and messed up plenty of good 1911's in the process. "I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee

Re: 1911's and hollow points iblong #9158525 09/07/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State Originally Posted by iblong The only one that gave me problems was my Colt XSE commander. That one would not even feed ball ammo reliably.Three trips to the Smith did not cure it so it went down the road at a major loss.Both my Kimbers will feed anything I've tried.I* prefer XTP and Gold dots. Your "1911 gunsmith" is a good one.--- Is he? Laff'n. "went down the road at a major loss" ... Another good move. Ha! Kimbers- Only proves that Kimber's are better than Colt---- Because YOU HAVE ONE. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points Reloder28 #9158527 09/07/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State Originally Posted by Reloder28 Originally Posted by iblong The only one that gave me problems was my Colt XSE commander. That one would not even feed ball ammo reliably.Three trips to the Smith did not cure it.... This is the reason I wouldn't dare own a Colt 1911 again. All they have ever done is sell their name and messed up plenty of good 1911's in the process. R28- You actually clicked on the [Submit] button with that statement. ...... Sounds like something you would hear coming out of the mouth of a Cabela's gun clerk. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points Gibby #9158535 09/07/14 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,720 now in SC rifle Campfire Tracker rifle Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,720 now in SC I have 6 1911's,all feed and shoot Gold Dots with full reliability and anything Federal puts out.One,a WWII Ithaca,couple of Springfield's and a Wilson,other two... are "new Colts" and they work perfect? Come on America, Athletes and actors are not heroes, only soldiers, airmen,marines and sailors get that respect�and let's add firemen and LEO's

Re: 1911's and hollow points rifle #9158538 09/07/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State Yep. Even my Colt Black Army will shoot hollow points and SWC's. 1911's are not rocket science. Neither is hand loading for them. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9159439 09/07/14 Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 67,693 N. Central Florida, and Miami Mannlicher Campfire Kahuna Mannlicher Campfire Kahuna Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 67,693 N. Central Florida, and Miami I have used the HydraShock JHP in my 1911 pistols for many years. They feel flawlessly, and feed just as well in my little Springfield XDS. Sam......

Re: 1911's and hollow points Mannlicher #9161197 09/08/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State Originally Posted by Mannlicher I have used the HydraShock JHP in my 1911 pistols for many years. They feel flawlessly, and feed just as well in my little Springfield XDS. Hydrashocks are a another good one. OP- If you don't handload, there are still a lot of options. REM Golden sabers have been proven to expand reliably at 45 ACP velocities. Especially the 185gr +P's. The 230gr work well also. I have heard from more than a few people, that those Hornady's with the rubber in the tip (forget what they call them), they hang up on the feed ramp more than other loads in the same gun. Personally, I have never used them. Just second hand knowledge. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points Gibby #9161877 09/08/14 Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland leomort OP Campfire Regular OP leomort Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland Gibby, I'm brand new to handloading. I'm still piece milling components together. I've got 1,000 45acp starline brass on order as well as 500 FMJ-RN 230gr 45acp bullets coming. It's been a challenge financially trying to pull all these components togethe for multiple calibers. Trying to find those components is another chalenge too, lol! The limiting factor for me, is pistol powder. I can't find them anywhere. I've also order some Lake City brass for my 223rem, but now have to deprime and "swage" them. So think I have to buy another tool for that job too? I really appreciate everyone's help!

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9161930 09/08/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State Just do what you can do. A little at a time is just fine. These threads get a little weird sometimes, but do not let that stop you from asking questions. Shifting through and using useful information can help you save some money. Trial and error is the best way to learn, but like I tell my kids, you do not have to make every mistake to learn. You can think through some of life's lessons. Most are here to help. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points Gibby #9162384 09/08/14 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,888 Deer Park, Tx R Reloder28 Campfire Ranger Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,888 Deer Park, Tx Originally Posted by Gibby R28- You actually clicked on the [Submit] button with that statement. ...... Sounds like something you would hear coming out of the mouth of a Cabela's gun clerk. Never been a fan of Colt anything and never will be. Way more reliable 1911's out of the box than anything Colt sells. "I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee

Re: 1911's and hollow points Reloder28 #9162413 09/08/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State I have no additional comment. Except, you know other people can see this. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9162540 09/08/14 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,628 MontanaMan Campfire Ranger MontanaMan Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,628 Originally Posted by leomort The limiting factor for me, is pistol powder. I can't find them anywhere. There are lot of powders that work well in the 45 ACP. My favorites are: PowerPistol, Unique, Bullseye, SOLO 1000, Autocomp, Accurate No.2 & No. 5, & Win 231/Hodgdon HP-38 Others that will work (& there are still more than I will list) Universal, Clays, CFE Pistol, SR4756, Titegroup, 700-X, Win WST. MM

Re: 1911's and hollow points MontanaMan #9162628 09/08/14 Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 39,301 Oregon City, OR S Scott F Campfire 'Bwana Scott F Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 39,301 Oregon City, OR AA #5 is my favorite 45 acp powder. It is hard to fine but worth the effort. The first time I shot myself in the head... Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!

Re: 1911's and hollow points Scott F #9162918 09/08/14 Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland leomort OP Campfire Regular OP leomort Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland MontanaMan, Yes, those are also good powders for handguns, but darn difficult to find. I can find rifle powders fairly easily. Scott, I look to see if I can in some AA#5. Looks like a good powder for the 45acp!

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9163453 09/08/14 Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 39,301 Oregon City, OR S Scott F Campfire 'Bwana Scott F Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 39,301 Oregon City, OR Lower pressure and higher velocity according to my books. It burns clean and meters like water. The first time I shot myself in the head... Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!

Re: 1911's and hollow points MontanaMan #9163505 09/08/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota JOG Campfire Outfitter JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota Originally Posted by MontanaMan My favorites are: PowerPistol, Unique, Bullseye, SOLO 1000, Autocomp, Accurate No.2 & No. 5, & Win 231/Hodgdon HP-38 Others that will work (& there are still more than I will list) Universal, Clays, CFE Pistol, SR4756, Titegroup, 700-X, Win WST. Ummm, thanks for narrowing it down. I like AA-7 because I can use it across a number of cartridges with good results. Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

Re: 1911's and hollow points JOG #9164334 09/09/14 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,628 MontanaMan Campfire Ranger MontanaMan Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,628 Originally Posted by JOG Originally Posted by MontanaMan My favorites are: PowerPistol, Unique, Bullseye, SOLO 1000, Autocomp, Accurate No.2 & No. 5, & Win 231/Hodgdon HP-38 Others that will work (& there are still more than I will list) Universal, Clays, CFE Pistol, SR4756, Titegroup, 700-X, Win WST. Ummm, thanks for narrowing it down. I see you haven't lost your sense of humor during your hiatus.............LOL Actually, I wasn't trying to narrow it down, just give him a list of what will work as powder has surely been a bit hard to come by. If I have to choose just one, it would be PowerPistol & I've managed to maintain enough of a supply to use it for both 45's & 9mm's as those are the 2 I burn up the most by far. But for those that haven't had the foresight to keep their supplies up, whatever they can find of the others will have to do. You'll also notice I haven't bothered posting anything else on this thread................. MM

Re: 1911's and hollow points MontanaMan #9164408 09/09/14 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,888 Deer Park, Tx R Reloder28 Campfire Ranger Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,888 Deer Park, Tx Originally Posted by MontanaMan If I have to choose just one, it would be PowerPistol...... MM I love Power Pistol!! I need to stock up on it prior to discontinuation, which ALWAYS happens when I stumble on something that works for me. "I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee

Re: 1911's and hollow points MontanaMan #9164701 09/09/14 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota JOG Campfire Outfitter JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,546 Minnesota Originally Posted by MontanaMan You'll also notice I haven't bothered posting anything else on this thread................. You always were smarter than me. Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

Re: 1911's and hollow points JOG #9164770 09/09/14 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,628 MontanaMan Campfire Ranger MontanaMan Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,628 No, just more self restraint............... MM

Re: 1911's and hollow points MontanaMan #9165189 09/09/14 Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland leomort OP Campfire Regular OP leomort Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland Think I seen load post awhile back about the 45acp using 255gr hard cast bullets but that springs would need to be swapped out. Anyone got info on that particular load?

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9166360 09/10/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State Originally Posted by leomort Think I seen load post awhile back about the 45acp using 255gr hard cast bullets but that springs would need to be swapped out. Anyone got info on that particular load? Leo- Loading these heavies in the 45 ACP is a whole different ball game. You said you were new to reloading. I would stick to the "sweet spot" (185gr-230gr) in bullets right now. For now..... Keep things simple. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points Gibby #9166530 09/10/14 Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland leomort OP Campfire Regular OP leomort Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland Gibby, Most definitely keeping it simple for now. Starline brass and 230gr fmj-rn. I want to shoot 500-1,000 rounds of this first.

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9167807 09/10/14 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,661 NW Nevada GunGeek Campfire Ranger GunGeek Campfire Ranger Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,661 NW Nevada Originally Posted by leomort Think I seen load post awhile back about the 45acp using 255gr hard cast bullets but that springs would need to be swapped out. Anyone got info on that particular load? Depends on the velocity of the bullet whether or not springs will have to be swapped. I've made standard pressure 255's in .45 ACP with no spring changes several times.

Re: 1911's and hollow points GunGeek #9167937 09/10/14 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,888 Deer Park, Tx R Reloder28 Campfire Ranger Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,888 Deer Park, Tx You can also transition your gun to a 45 Super with relative ease if you roll your own loads. "I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee

Re: 1911's and hollow points GunGeek #9169021 09/10/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State Originally Posted by GunGeek Originally Posted by leomort Think I seen load post awhile back about the 45acp using 255gr hard cast bullets but that springs would need to be swapped out. Anyone got info on that particular load? Depends on the velocity of the bullet whether or not springs will have to be swapped. I've made standard pressure 255's in .45 ACP with no spring changes several times. I did not know you hand loaded Kevin. Yea, there is no need to modify the gun at using heavies at standard 45 ACP pressures. It is more bullet profile/choice and seating depth experimentation. Not for a beginner. But not rocket science though. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points Gibby #9170716 09/11/14 Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland leomort OP Campfire Regular OP leomort Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland I haven't bought my dies yet for the 45acp. Any recommendations? I have a single stage RCBS rock chucker supreme. RCBS, Lee Deluxe, Redding, etc.?

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9170756 09/11/14 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,628 MontanaMan Campfire Ranger MontanaMan Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,628 They are all Ok as long as you get the carbide sizer, but I'd suggest you buy a Lee Factory Crimp die also, if you buy something other than the Lee set that has it in it. MM

Re: 1911's and hollow points leomort #9170867 09/11/14 Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,559 USA T The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,559 USA They make them nowadays with hollow points in mind, so yes. The most reliable hollow points in a .45 are going to be the 230 grainers, most particularly the Hydra-Shok, Gold Dot, and Golden Saber.

Re: 1911's and hollow points GunGeek #9170941 09/11/14 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 69,194 TX chlinstructor Campfire Kahuna chlinstructor Campfire Kahuna Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 69,194 TX Originally Posted by GunGeek Originally Posted by leomort Think I seen load post awhile back about the 45acp using 255gr hard cast bullets but that springs would need to be swapped out. Anyone got info on that particular load? Depends on the velocity of the bullet whether or not springs will have to be swapped. I've made standard pressure 255's in .45 ACP with no spring changes several times. ^^^This^^^ I've got a 250gr WFP Hard Cast bullet that I load for pig hunting that chrono's at 950 fps that I shoot in all my 1911's in 45acp. My guns are all running that load with the Factory recoil spring with no issues whatsoever. "Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!" ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: 1911's and hollow points MontanaMan #9171208 09/11/14 Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 39,301 Oregon City, OR S Scott F Campfire 'Bwana Scott F Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 39,301 Oregon City, OR Originally Posted by MontanaMan They are all Ok as long as you get the carbide sizer, but I'd suggest you buy a Lee Factory Crimp die also, if you buy something other than the Lee set that has it in it. MM THIS! The first time I shot myself in the head... Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!

Re: 1911's and hollow points MontanaMan #9171824 09/12/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State Originally Posted by MontanaMan They are all Ok as long as you get the carbide sizer, but I'd suggest you buy a Lee Factory Crimp die also, if you buy something other than the Lee set that has it in it. MM The Lee 4 die set will be the best value. It includes the Factory Crimp die. If you get infected with the 45ACP/1911 bug, then later, I recommend buying a micro adjustable seating die. They are expensive, but worth it. When you are trying various bullets, either by choice or availability, it is so much easier to tweak your favorite load for various guns. I have also found many times that the OAL listed in various reloading data to be not reliable. Some data is tested using a pressure receiver and does not account for magazine function. A tweak of .010" can make a difference. Sometimes as little as .003". You have a very good press that can take advantage of this die. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points chlinstructor #9171828 09/12/14 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,903 USA J jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,903 USA Originally Posted by chlinstructor Originally Posted by GunGeek Originally Posted by leomort Think I seen load post awhile back about the 45acp using 255gr hard cast bullets but that springs would need to be swapped out. Anyone got info on that particular load? Depends on the velocity of the bullet whether or not springs will have to be swapped. I've made standard pressure 255's in .45 ACP with no spring changes several times. ^^^This^^^ I've got a 250gr WFP Hard Cast bullet that I load for pig hunting that chrono's at 950 fps that I shoot in all my 1911's in 45acp. My guns are all running that load with the Factory recoil spring with no issues whatsoever. Higher pressure loads May requirement higher spring weight, heavier bullets at the same pressure do not. I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

Re: 1911's and hollow points jwp475 #9180730 09/15/14 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 946 middle Tennessee B beefan Campfire Regular beefan Campfire Regular B Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 946 middle Tennessee 185 gr. Hornady XTP's work well in my Colt Commander. Some magazines work better than others; some trial runs with a variety will be beneficial.

Re: 1911's and hollow points beefan #9180993 09/15/14 Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland leomort OP Campfire Regular OP leomort Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,059 Maryland I'll be picking up some Lee 45acp 4die set sometime this week!

Re: 1911's and hollow points beefan #9182353 09/16/14 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State G Gibby Campfire Outfitter Gibby Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 11,263 Bluegrass State Originally Posted by beefan 185 gr. Hornady XTP's work well in my Colt Commander. Some magazines work better than others; some trial runs with a variety will be beneficial. In the Lightweight Commander, I have found the 185 grainer's work the best for me also. Both standard and at +P velocities. XTP's preferred. For factory, I like 185 +P's Golden Sabers. Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.

Re: 1911's and hollow points chlinstructor #9182612 09/16/14 Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 46,965 Iowa R RickyD Campfire 'Bwana RickyD Campfire 'Bwana R Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 46,965 Iowa Originally Posted by chlinstructor Yes they do! And Speer GoldDots are hard to beat for the money! And harder to find than hensteeth in 230 grain weight. We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth? Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.