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A tragic story. My condolences to his family.
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Heard it on the Alberta local news last night...sad indeed.
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There are a lot of them around this year. A grizzly has set up shop in Bragg Creek the past 3 weeks or so. He has whacked 4 deer that I know of in that time. One right outside my kitchen window. Be careful out there.
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Tragic story.
My son and his best friend had a very close 30' encounter on the sheep mountain this year with a charging griz when they all converged unexpectedly.
They were lucky to walk away.
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stay alert when in bear country
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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My condolences to his family. Let us all be cautious this hunting season.
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Sad story but it is good to know the bears are hanging on. It's been said a sheep mountain is infinitely more interesting with a grizzly bear on it. May he rest in peace.
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The whole back-country is more interesting with predators.
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Yukoner; Thanks for posting this Ted, I'd not caught it previously.
My thoughts and prayers are with this gentleman's family and friends left behind.
It's a risk we run when we hunt solo - or anytime in bear country I suppose.
Thanks again for the link, all the best to you and yours and good luck on your hunts this fall as well.
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The gentleman went out with his boots on. We should all be so lucky.
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Nothing make one shake more than to have an old growly bear shuffling around the tent at night. Cisco
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Bear spray? Play dead?
I'd just "bear" my 45.
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Yeah, I'd rather use lead bear spray.
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Found out that Rick worked at the camp my son attended for the past 2 years, teaching them how to shoot, build fires, and generally be boys.
Had to break the news to my 11 year old last night. The man left behind a legacy of teaching boys about God, the outdoors, and challenging them to become men. I hope the same can be said of me when it's my time.
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sorry to see this, both for his family and friends, my Canadian friends and the even smaller fraternity of sheep hunters and solo sheep hunters.
btdt, didn't give any of my family the warm fuzzies
but a man's gotta do what he wants to do, sometimes
imo worse fates than ending up bear scat
still I grieve for his loss to those affected most by it.
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Seemed like a great guy. Too bad. Prayers for all involved.
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I hate hearing that he died, but he died doing what he loves and we should all go the same way. The thing that bothers me is if government wasn't there how do they know he got between a sow and cub? That excuse is used to often in Canada when they don't know, and is an excuse because bears are loosing their fear of man. JMO YMMV
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Always puzzles me that with all the info out there about bear spray and guns used to stop bear attacks, people that don't live in bear country think they are going to stop a bear with a 45 or some other handgun. Mostly, it's people that have never seen a grizzly.
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Have you ever watched the FWP video on using bear spray? Shows a guy spraying that crap out in the woods. Has to spray into the wind to get it to hit where he is aiming and it appears to only go 20'ish under those conditions. You're going to get chewed on if you let a charging bear get to 20' before you react to it. I don't claim to have all of the answers, but I do know that you generally hear that bear spray is the only answer to a charge from those that advocate not killing bears.
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A couple of different agencies went back and looked at 100s of bear attacks. In the incidents where bear spray was used, there was a very very small % of injuries, almost none. Were firearms were used, the injury rate was, if I remember corruptly over 90%. The sheep hunter that is the topic of this thread was carrying a firearm. The two Texas hunters in Montana last year or the year before couldn't stop the bear with their rifles, and one man was mauled, and then shot accidentally by his hunting partner. Spent a Saturday a couple of weeks ago visiting with a very avid and successful hunter who had worked with MT FWP doing grizzly research- They put their faith in bear spray. Have friends who have guided fishermen in Alaska and have used bear spray, successfully. There are 100's if not thousands of documented cases where bear spray has been used successfully to deter grizzly charges. I have never had to stop a bear charge,but I am going to go with the knowledge of the guys that work in bear country every day and who have had to stop bear charges, and who have had to pick up the pieces of people who have tried to use guns to stop bears.
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Another hunter was killed by a bear this week in the NWT. I think more hunters are killed by bears than any other group using the back country.
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Time to start pressuring SRD and the minister to take another, closer look at grizz numbers in AB and to consider re-opening the grizz hunt in a sustainable way!
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No grizz hunting there?
Anyone IMHO that trusts bear spray only is a nut
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Bear spray? Play dead?
I'd just "bear" my 45. A .45? Good luck with that...
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Another hunter was killed by a bear this week in the NWT. I think more hunters are killed by bears than any other group using the back country. Well that shouldn't come as a surprise. Hunter's sneak around like a predator looking for animals. Should they sneak up on the wrong one and surprise it, things could go south real quick!
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NORMAN WELLS, N.W.T. -- A hunter has been killed by a grizzly bear in the Northwest Territories. RCMP said they received a call Wednesday night about the attack southwest of Norman Wells near the Yukon boundary. Weather and darkness hampered search efforts until Thursday morning. Cathy Menard, the chief coroner for the N.W.T., said the hunter was out with a guide when he was attacked. "We understand the guide was the one who made the initial call for assistance." Another coroner, along with a wildlife officer and Mounties, were investigating the scene throughout the day and were to return to Norman Wells with the guide later Thursday. Menard said she doesn't believe the guide was injured. She hasn't yet confirmed the hunter's identity and couldn't say where he is from. Judy McLinton with the N.W.T. Department of Environment and Natural Resources said a wildlife incident response team was also to go to the site "They'll be working with our partners on investigating the incident and they will begin a search for the grizzly bear." Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/hunter...west-territories-1.2013845#ixzz3Dnyu5o6N
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