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Originally Posted by tjm10025
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Point I am making is that many people hold a position on the issue but don't know actually know what the various political parties are proposing.


Well, that never stopped the average American from explaining to a British gentleman why the Scottish people are doing something.


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
I don't give a flying frick. Should California ask to secede, I'm sure anyone with half a brain would jump all over that.

But then again, I'm not a statist Johnny Come Lately.



So you and the other guy with half a brain are perfectly ok with the dissolution of the United States? And Johnny COme Lately? to this thread? or at least that what I take it you meant .......


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Based on news reports it might actually come to pass,


Latest poll has swung back in the "No" direction. Looking back at the data scatter over all the polls I don't see it passing.

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I don't give a flying frick. Should California ask to secede, I'm sure anyone with half a brain would jump all over that.

But then again, I'm not a statist Johnny Come Lately.



So you and the other guy with half a brain are perfectly ok with the dissolution of the United States? And Johnny COme Lately? to this thread? or at least that what I take it you meant .......


Sure I'm okay with it. What kind of twisted frick would want to keep people around if they didn't want to be around?

No, I mean to this country.

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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Ann Coulter has asked why we can't just give California back to Mexico?
Would you miss it?

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I don't give a flying frick. Should California ask to secede, I'm sure anyone with half a brain would jump all over that.

But then again, I'm not a statist Johnny Come Lately.



So you and the other guy with half a brain are perfectly ok with the dissolution of the United States? And Johnny COme Lately? to this thread? or at least that what I take it you meant .......


The US is going to dissolve anyway no matter what you, I or anyone else thinks. All empires die eventually.


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Originally Posted by GunGeek
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Ann Coulter has asked why we can't just give California back to Mexico?
Would you miss it?


Except for the vineyards, I can't say there's much that I would miss.

They would have to take on all the debt, though. And they would have to keep Janet Napolitano.


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I had a Scot in my office yesterday and we were talking about this. Apparently one if the driving forces behind this is the unchecked immigration in the UK from Muslim countries and Eastern Europe. For obvious reasons you won't see that talked up in the press.



The Scottish National Party says that one of its main policy's is to increase the work force. They have outlined three proposals one of which is to *increase* immigration!




Nothing wrong with increasing immigration as long as the immigrants can assimilate into Scotland's Gaelic culture which generally means white. No Muslim on earth can assimilate into any white culture especially Gaelic culture.

I go to a fair number of feiseanna, most competitors are white of Gaelic culture, usually of the Irish persuasion, a few are black and Asians but I've yet to see a single Muslim at any of these.

Muslims are the dark side of the Force.


What's with the propagation of the myth that Irish and Scots are white? Pale of skin, but negroid by all other measure.


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Not unless they want the UK military crawling up their rear ends and to have London oppress them even for a few hundred years.

Not that anyone in the US would have any insight into this... whistle

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I don't give a flying frick. Should California ask to secede, I'm sure anyone with half a brain would jump all over that.

But then again, I'm not a statist Johnny Come Lately.



So you and the other guy with half a brain are perfectly ok with the dissolution of the United States? And Johnny COme Lately? to this thread? or at least that what I take it you meant .......


Sounds to me he is saying that he'd have no problem if a "net taker" from the system were to opt out. It's all a matter of opinion on one hand, and purely theoretical anyway. This discussion (along with anything having to do with the original meaning of the US Constitution) was settled over 160 yrs ago.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
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Originally Posted by JoeBob
I don't give a flying frick. Should California ask to secede, I'm sure anyone with half a brain would jump all over that.

But then again, I'm not a statist Johnny Come Lately.



So you and the other guy with half a brain are perfectly ok with the dissolution of the United States? And Johnny COme Lately? to this thread? or at least that what I take it you meant .......


Sure I'm okay with it. What kind of twisted frick would want to keep people around if they didn't want to be around?

No, I mean to this country.


FOAD would be appropriate here, but how old are you and how many years of military service (to this country of course) and or combat tours do you have? Personally, I've been here 54 years, 30 of them (plus four months and seventeen days) as a member of the armed forces. If you like, I can send you a copy of my DD-214 (which includes rank, combat and decorations) ... But with a handle like "Joe Bob" it's probably all in vain, but I can also send you some coupons to Bed Bath & Beyond, they'e having a sale on white sheets....On second thought, FOAD is best...


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
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Originally Posted by JoeBob
I don't give a flying frick. Should California ask to secede, I'm sure anyone with half a brain would jump all over that.

But then again, I'm not a statist Johnny Come Lately.



So you and the other guy with half a brain are perfectly ok with the dissolution of the United States? And Johnny COme Lately? to this thread? or at least that what I take it you meant .......


Sure I'm okay with it. What kind of twisted frick would want to keep people around if they didn't want to be around?

No, I mean to this country.


If they don't want to "be around" then they can emigrate.


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What's with the propagation of the myth that Irish and Scots are white? Pale of skin, but negroid by all other measure.


Thanks.

Who told YOU? wink


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Not unless they want the UK military crawling up their rear ends and to have London oppress them even for a few hundred years.

Not that anyone in the US would have any insight into this... whistle


SHARE your insight.

Specifics please.....


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GFY Joe Bob.


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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What's with the propagation of the myth that Irish and Scots are white? Pale of skin, but negroid by all other measure.


Thanks.

Who told YOU? wink


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Originally Posted by BOBBALEE
GFY Joe Bob.


Unless you're a Cuban who made a nice living sponging off the US taxpayer, no need to get upset. Of course, statists always instinctually come down against freedom. They just don't understand and it and fear it.

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Based on news reports it might actually come to pass, an independent Scotland for the first time in 300 years.

Seems like an act of lunacy to me.

Curious what other folks think and why.

Birdwatcher
Why lunacy? The more decentralized governance is, the better for personal liberty.


Yet more ignorance. HUGE difference between "de-centralized" government and complete independence. It would sheer luncacy for the Scots to seek independence, particularly with no means of sustaining themselves. It would be just as stupid if states all of a sudden decided to leave the US. Oh wait, SOME of you think it's a good idea so my original post stands...


Good lord. Do people not read what they're writing? Huge +1.


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What's with the propagation of the myth that Irish and Scots are white? Pale of skin, but negroid by all other measure.


Thanks.

Who told YOU? wink


Bumpity


WTF

Wrong bait? Too big of a hook? grin


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Naah, prob'ly too many people agree with you.

For my own part, I find myself really worried that this dissolution might take place, and will be profoundly depressed if it does.

The strength of my feelings on this is a surprise, after all I ain't lived there for nearly 45 years and always knew I was an American citizen even when I WAS there (tho I knew no actual Americans other than my dad).

Maybe the roots of one's raising really do run deep as the song goes, if Scotland opts out it'll feel like disaster.

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