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I think by the time you get to Pelican Bay, the most reasonable thing to do, is take the subject to a padded room, and put a bullet in the nap of his neck and then take him to a furnace! Take the ashes and bury them in some pit, when the pit is full dig another! And the ones you don't shoot in the system, you don't let then have any sort of access to anything sort of media, be it TV, Computers, no phones, you caught with a phone, no problem, you are taken to a padded room and shot! And maybe introduce hard labor again, if you are doing 15 hours of back breaking work a day, maybe you will be to tired for the other nonsense! You ain't gonna change 'em by being nice to 'em.
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Interesting read.
Our penal system is big business run amok at taxpayers' expense.
"There's more to optics than meets the eye."--anon
"...most of us would be better off losing half a pound around the waist than half a pound on our rifle."--dhg
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Interesting read.
Our penal system is big business run amok at taxpayers' expense. Got a better idea that's not illegal or unconstitutional?
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The problem is solvable. In simple, understandable terms.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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I worked 18 years in Pelican Bay. Chris Acosta is a good friend.
The real problem is the drug war. Society is creating this underground economy and its participants. If not for the drug war those criminals would be picking lettuce and displacing the jobs illegals take.
Ignorance is not confined to uneducated people.
WHO IS JOHN GALT?
LIBERTY!
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I was hoping you would weigh in. I have no way of judging an article like this, whether it is 1% accurate or 99%.
I appreciate your comments.
Sycamore
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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You ain't gonna change 'em by being nice to 'em.
Public humiliation and canings. Mostly canings. Pain is a powerful deterrent if applied in large enough doses. And I do mean LARGE doses, for extended periods. With sleep deprivation.
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In 1984 interviewed for a position with Edmonds community college teaching electronics at Monroe medium security reformatory. I was in for ~ 6 hours of interview. I had to give up my car keys to get in, because someone might make a shank out of them.
Not only did I not get an offer. There were 6 members of the faculty lined up like a firing squad telling me I was unfit because I was "a bleeding heart liberal".
They were super hard. They saw me as soft.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway
The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps
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Do you really want to give the government the power to do that? Talk about the "slippery slope" possibilities!
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The problem is solvable. In simple, understandable terms. .......... and there ain't no good chain gang.
Never holler whoa or look back in a tight place
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You ain't gonna change 'em by being nice to 'em.
Public humiliation and canings. Mostly canings. Pain is a powerful deterrent if applied in large enough doses. And I do mean LARGE doses, for extended periods. With sleep deprivation. Yep, I've been saying that for years. The cost of incarceration, both in $$ and in damage to society is totally reprehensible.
Islam is a terrorist organization.
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Do you really want to give the government the power to do that? Talk about the "slippery slope" possibilities! Agreed. And I suspect you are right, it would go poorly. The problem is the corruption of man, men in all stations of life. If we could get level-headed men to mete out the justice to the worst of these animals we might get some control back. As it is, they run loose.
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I doubt they'd care that much IF they recognized them.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Interesting read.
Our penal system is big business run amok at taxpayers' expense. Got a better idea that's not illegal or unconstitutional? 3rd strike, they go to the island. No one comes back from the island.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Interesting read.
Our penal system is big business run amok at taxpayers' expense. Got a better idea that's not illegal or unconstitutional? That would be my preference. No punishment pe se, no system of organized cruelty, just remove them from society permanently. Except I'd change things to make a serious, really serious shot at trying to keep the first timers from becoming graduates of crime college. Then toss them out of society on the 2nd offense.
Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery.
Hit the target, all else is twaddle!
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Interesting read.
Our penal system is big business run amok at taxpayers' expense. Got a better idea that's not illegal or unconstitutional? End the silly war on drugs. And fire Holder and the AIC.
"There's more to optics than meets the eye."--anon
"...most of us would be better off losing half a pound around the waist than half a pound on our rifle."--dhg
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The problem is solvable. In simple, understandable terms. .......... and there ain't no good chain gang. No, that is a poor use for steel. Lead on the other hand...why I've read some here at the 'Fire have enough to solve California's problem single handed. We should neither support or tolerate this scum.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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I was hoping you would weigh in. I have no way of judging an article like this, whether it is 1% accurate or 99%.
I appreciate your comments.
Sycamore Well force is government, and society does not really let the prison system use force, so yes the gangs, who have no hesitation at using violence are the source of order, any unpaid debt will bring swift justice. Whenever you study social systems with an understanding of the observable laws of economics, and I mean those understandings of economics that Adam Smith and the Austrian Schools would agree with, you will have a firm grasp of the dynamics. Prison isn't sugar coated, and it sure is not socialistic, despite the fact that America runs them on an idealistic gay socialist paradise model.
Ignorance is not confined to uneducated people.
WHO IS JOHN GALT?
LIBERTY!
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