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You didn't answer my questions. Nice dodge.
You clearly see the chance to comply. He took a step to the right, started crouch and raise the gun. Chance gone.
Comply with what? Do witnesses confirm that cops issued a command and provided more than an instant to comply? Witnesses? TFF... How about this... If a civilan with a ccw did the same thing to the gunman, you'd be singing their praises and calling it a good shoot.
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Witnesses? TFF...
How about this...
If a civilan with a ccw did the same thing to the gunman, you'd be singing their praises and calling it a good shoot.
BS.
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not to mention do you kill a man on the word of a 911 caller
It's your job to face the dude. You've been told that he's already shot people. What frame of mind do you approach him with? Me? He flinches, he dies. I'm not giving him the chance to kill me. Remember, I don't know that it's an air rifle and I'm under the impression that he's trigger happy. Seriously, what would you have done differently given that knowledge? the toy gun has an orange tip on it and no one in the store is acting like a man has a weapon pointing it at people. That "orage tip" doesn't mean a damn thing anymore. We have taken a half dozen guns this year off of turds that had the tips painted orange.
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If a civilian with a CCW did this, he'd be in prison..
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it doesn't mean a damn thing to the police?
yes, I'm sure you're right as evidenced by this shooting
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not to mention do you kill a man on the word of a 911 caller
It's your job to face the dude. You've been told that he's already shot people. What frame of mind do you approach him with? Me? He flinches, he dies. I'm not giving him the chance to kill me. Remember, I don't know that it's an air rifle and I'm under the impression that he's trigger happy. Seriously, what would you have done differently given that knowledge? the toy gun has an orange tip on it and no one in the store is acting like a man has a weapon pointing it at people. First, orange tip? Really? Have you ever been in a shooting scenario? When a gun is being weilded do you want to take the time to call a time out so that you can get a better look at the tip? Do you know that it's not a real rifle that the shooter painted orange on it? Do you think that's really all that obvious given all the other colors in that asile? If you want to play games with your life, that's on you. I would have done the same thing the cops did. Good shoot
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it doesn't mean a damn thing to the police?
yes, I'm sure you're right as evidenced by this shooting It doesn't mean that we automatically think "toy gun" anymore As I said, crooks are smart enough to paint the tips of real guns "orange ". We have taken a half dozen or so aood Bgs this year painted that way So no, it doesnt mean that If i see an orange tip i'm going to relax and say "awe shuchs folks it's just a toy"
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And from what I can see of the video he didnt give the cops a whole lot of time to make commands either, seems like he rounded the corner and started raising the gun, and got what he asked for
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If a civilian with a CCW did this, he'd be in prison.. Probably, yes. But the campfire would be screaming injustice were it so and call the dude a good samaritan.
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And from what I can see of the video he didnt give the cops a whole lot of time to make commands either, seems like he rounded the corner and started raising the gun, and got what he asked for Clear as day. He heard the warning and moved instantly in an aggressive manner. Good shoot
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That guy had already shot a kid in the windpipe and a lady in the face. He was running around screaming about "putting your eye out with that thing". He was a crazy man trying to shoot people's eyes out. if this dude had already shot two people for real with that pellet gun, I would have done the same thing the cop did, I don't want to get shot by anything. You be one more stupid or deranged SOB to walk around a walmart and shoot people with a pellet rifle. On the other hand if Mr. Cruise is being factious and the man he had done nothing but play with the gun and he was killed by the cops then that is totally wrong without so much as a "drop the gun and put your hands in the air"....
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watch the video and tell me he isn't swinging the gun back and forth at his side before the police arrive.
if this was a 14 year old kid the police killed because of a 911 call, I wonder how many people would be so quick to say he got what asked for
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Not enough info to form any opinion one way or the other.
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And a check of Crossman airguns web page shows that the air gun in question the m4-177 does not have an orange muzzle tip
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you're too smart to fall for that trick anyways
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Moral to this story - Don't buy guns at Walmart.
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the toy gun has an orange tip on it and no one in the store is acting like a man has a weapon pointing it at people.
No orange tip on the gun. Orange muzzles are for toy guns. Air rifles are not toys.
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true
the thread I read said it was an air-soft gun
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Without watching the video, I'm gonna guess the guy was white. Am I right?
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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If a civilian with a CCW did this, he'd be in prison.. Probably, yes. But the campfire would be screaming injustice were it so and call the dude a good samaritan. You're off your rocker.
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