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If you carry a magazine fed handgun, you'd be a fool not to carry at least one spare.

A broken or malfunctioning magazine will quickly turn your pistol into a single-shot, at best.

On more than one occasion I've seen magazines dump their contents when the floor plate failed.


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Originally Posted by ready_on_the_right
On my person what the weapon holds.

I believe stats show majority of incidents are low rounds fired affairs!

If it were a mob situation extract yourself when it begins and or don't go into it if not already there!

Mike


I think this is the winning answer right here for most of us.


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
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On my person what the weapon holds.

I believe stats show majority of incidents are low rounds fired affairs!

If it were a mob situation extract yourself when it begins and or don't go into it if not already there!

Mike




I don't carry a spare mag because I expect to be in a pro longed gun fight. I carry it because I know Mr. Murphy, and I am afraid he will decide that if I am in a gun fight that I shall only fire one round before a mag failure.


That is certainly a possibility and being an LEO even in off duty mode that is even more of a possibility.

However, for most of us civilians with high quality mags that isn't much of a problem. I know all failures with my 1911's have operator error not mag or pistol. More mags would not have made much of a difference. Than again who knows maybe an extra mag would have. Something to think about.


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I'm carrying my Glock 36 45 ACP at the moment with 6 in the mag and one in the chamber. I sometime carry a extra mag, but haven't lately .


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When I'm wearing a tucked in shirt, I carry a spare (10-round) magazine for my Glock 26 (which would be carried in an ankle holster) and gives me 21-rounds total. When I'm wearing a shirt or something that covers my belt, then I carry two 10-round magazines in a magazine pouch which then gives me 31-rounds total.

I also carry a S&W 642 (5-rounds) as a BUG with two speed strips.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
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How many rounds do you have to have on person to feel comfortable with your conceal carry gun, what the pistol mag or cylinder hold's or do you have to have extra rounds in reserve?
I've been carrying my Sig P938 lately and I've just been carrying the mag that came with it and the extra I procured. That's only ten rounds since you can't get six in the mag. I'm going to try and get another mag for this one and once these get worn a bit, I should be able to get six rounds in them. I'll get the extended seven-round mag if I can.

When carrying the M&P Compact 9, I carry an extra mag giving me 22 rounds.


I bought one of the Sig 938s a month ago, used, it came with the Crimson Trace, three mags and a holster. The trigger was awful, to the point where I could just barely stay on the paper at 25 feet. I've been working on wearing the trigger in to loosen the pull and remove some of the grit and grinding.
Currently I'm working on wearing the action in with 115 grain hard ball FMJs. I've put 450 rounds thru it at the range and shoot at the knots in the paneling in the TV room. (Yes, I know no mag, no ammo, in the room.)
Have you worked with your handgun to find which bullet weight, 115 or 124, or brand od ammo works best for you?
I was over in Gun Broker looking for the 7 round mag and found a fellow whose is doing a two for deal, at what appears to be a reasonable price, $80.00 per two.


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I carry a few extra mags in the truck, as well as speed loaders for my revolvers. I figure if I can't deal with the situation with the 7 rounds in the Shield, I better be heading to the truck anyway.

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The good Col. Cooper stated "A handgun is merely a weapon used to fight your way back to your rifle."



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Usually carry two 17 rd'ers in a pocket or mag pouch in addition to the 10 rd in my SR9c...

Basically...just because.

(And two in the back pocket feels better to sit on than one!) laugh


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
The good Col. Cooper stated "A handgun is merely a weapon used to fight your way back to your rifle."

I never really understood that. As a civilian, if I can get back to my vehicle, I'm leaving!

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Originally Posted by arkypete
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by bea175
How many rounds do you have to have on person to feel comfortable with your conceal carry gun, what the pistol mag or cylinder hold's or do you have to have extra rounds in reserve?
I've been carrying my Sig P938 lately and I've just been carrying the mag that came with it and the extra I procured. That's only ten rounds since you can't get six in the mag. I'm going to try and get another mag for this one and once these get worn a bit, I should be able to get six rounds in them. I'll get the extended seven-round mag if I can.

When carrying the M&P Compact 9, I carry an extra mag giving me 22 rounds.


I bought one of the Sig 938s a month ago, used, it came with the Crimson Trace, three mags and a holster. The trigger was awful, to the point where I could just barely stay on the paper at 25 feet. I've been working on wearing the trigger in to loosen the pull and remove some of the grit and grinding.
Currently I'm working on wearing the action in with 115 grain hard ball FMJs. I've put 450 rounds thru it at the range and shoot at the knots in the paneling in the TV room. (Yes, I know no mag, no ammo, in the room.)
Have you worked with your handgun to find which bullet weight, 115 or 124, or brand od ammo works best for you?
I was over in Gun Broker looking for the 7 round mag and found a fellow whose is doing a two for deal, at what appears to be a reasonable price, $80.00 per two.
No. I haven't shot the SIG extensively. It worked with what I figured was the worst ammo for that gun, that I had laying around. There's always the chance it won't work with better ammo so I will wring it out more when I have the opportunity. For now, I'm carrying it with my stupid LRN reloads because I know they work in it. Eventually, I'd like to carry it with HOT 115 grain JHP ammo, because that is my preference in the 9. I've got all sorts of ammo though. The guy said they like 124 grain on up and hot.

From what I've seen, that is a decent price on the mag. I think I paid $47 for the seven rounder I bought yesterday.

I've got one of the NAA 380's that I may be carrying too. More extensive testing needs done. That one's got a REALLY extended mag.

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
The good Col. Cooper stated "A handgun is merely a weapon used to fight your way back to your rifle."

You sure that was cooper? I thought it was Clint Smith.


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Originally Posted by UPhiker
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The good Col. Cooper stated "A handgun is merely a weapon used to fight your way back to your rifle."

I never really understood that. As a civilian, if I can get back to my vehicle, I'm leaving!
I think it's just a clever way of expressing the idea that a handgun is only carried because it's many times more convenient to do so than would be a rifle, i.e., if they were equally easy to have with you at all times, everyone would have a rifle with them at all times, and not a handgun, due to how superior a rifle is to a handgun in most combat contexts. The saying is just a clever way of making that point, i.e., "You should keep in mind that your handgun is just a compromise weapon that you carry because you can't practically carry a rifle (the far superior personal weapon) around with you."


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
]I think it's just a clever way of expressing the idea that a handgun is only carried because it's many times more convenient to do so than would be a rifle,


I agree with your interpretation as to what the originator of the quote intended. I disagree as to whether it's clever, actually it strikes me as the opposite.

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Sig Tac-Ops 40, four mags..61 rounds.

Baer 45 ACP, four mags..33 rounds.

Colt Trooper 357, loaded cylinder and 4 speed loaders..30 rounds.

Carry this way when traveling, not on the farm.


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Jeff Cooper, also:

"I am sometimes perplexed by people who refer to 'defensive rifles' or to 'defensive rifle shooting'.
The defensive arm is the pistol, since you have it at hand to meet situations that you do not anticipate.
If you have the luxury of anticipating a lethal encounter, you pick up a long arm, either a rifle or a shotgun,
but in that case you go on the attack. Thus rifle shooting is offensive, and pistol shooting is defensive.

Of course, life does not always duplicate theory, and there are always exceptions to everything,
but nevertheless the rifle is not a defensive weapon."

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I usually carry a model 60 5 shot.. When I walk in the mornings near home, I feel safe with that.. Here my biggest concern is a stray dog that could be dangerous, a mt. lion occasionally wanders into town, the other day they tranquilized a black bear down town... If there are reports of animals in town, then I slip one of several .44's in to a holster..
We very seldom travel to or stay in big cities.. But when on the road, I have my model 60, the wife has her model 66, plus we have several revolvers in easy reach in the cab.. If I am forced to stay in a bigger town, I slip an additional .357 on my person if I am walking..
In the hills, I usually carry a .357 or/a 44. If only one, then I carry a 15 round ammo pack..
We live and spend most of our lives, in a low crime area.. I am certain if conditions were different, I would probably pack a high capacity auto..


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Originally Posted by P_Weed
Jeff Cooper, also:

"I am sometimes perplexed by people who refer to 'defensive rifles' or to 'defensive rifle shooting'.
The defensive arm is the pistol, since you have it at hand to meet situations that you do not anticipate.
If you have the luxury of anticipating a lethal encounter, you pick up a long arm, either a rifle or a shotgun,
but in that case you go on the attack. Thus rifle shooting is offensive, and pistol shooting is defensive.

Of course, life does not always duplicate theory, and there are always exceptions to everything,
but nevertheless the rifle is not a defensive weapon."

- Jeff Cooper

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No arguments there.


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Of the three guns I carry CCW on a regular basis, I have a minimum of 18 rounds total and a maximum of 22 available. Two have two reloads to get there and one has one reload.

As for that �fighting your way to a rifle� concept, I think it is BS in a CCW scenario. Fight or run. Thinking you can�t win without going back and getting the rifle means you already lost the mind game, so go away and don't come back with your rifle. Note that "you" is a collective you, and not aimed at DD.

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