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A little while back when I was having my .35 Whelen build I asked your opinion on which bullet to use for moose. After all the suggetions, today I did my own test.

Test media was wet newspaper.
Impact velocity: approx 2500fps for the 250gr and 2650fps for the 225gr.

Side by side view of the exit hole after approximately 6" of penetration. First one is Speer GS vs Barnes TSX, second one is Hornady IL vs Speer HC.
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Hornady 250gr SP IL

Penetration: 17"
Expansion: 0.802, 0.793, 0.792....avrg: 0.803
Weight retention: 206.2, 206.0, 204.2....avrg: 205.1gr
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Speer 250gr HC

Penetration: 18"
Expansion: 0.670, 0.796, .0774....avrg: 0.747
Weight retention: 173.8, 217.8, 209.5....avrg: 200.4
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Speer 250gr GS

Penetration: 18"
Expansion: 0.656, 0.700...avrg: 0.678
Weight retention: 208.3, 212.8....avrg: 210.6
(one bullet got away)
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid209/p504d3d7d5478e3b2d1cf56048dcc2cf7/ee15397c.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid209/p14232d8de1657d2311ad283f8749ed1e/ee1536a2.jpg[/img]

Barnes 225gr TSX

Penetration: 20"
Expansion: 0.737, 0.755, 0.686...avrg: 0.726
Weight retention: 225.1, 225.0, 224.9...avrg: 225.0
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid209/p8cb9ecec78b0631396650d6b06ed4a3c/ee153a2e.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid209/pf78678817795fb900a3851cad10ee986/ee15359e.jpg[/img]

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Cool, thanx for the data and pix.

It is nice to see a test showing that a lighter TSX will out penetrate a heavier premium (Speer Grand Slam) or a very good standard (Interlockt and Hot Core).

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Thank you for taking the time to share your results with us, particularly the pictures but also the great data!


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So which one are you chooseing, TSX????



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Probably. A little faster, a little flatter, a little deeper, a little heavier and almost as wide. When you add all those "little" it must be worth something! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Last time I went to the range to work up some loads with those bullet I was mostly looking at pressure to see what my my new custom liked. With both Speers, three shot groups with shooting one bullet per grain of powder (1 bullet at 54gr, 1 bullet at 55gr and 1 bullet at 56gr) I was getting sub moa groups. The Hornady and TSX were around 2.25" but of course these weren't real group. I really want to work up a load for the TSX now. But it looks like you couldn't really go wrong with any of those.

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Sure like the looks of that TSX. I know which one I'd use.

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BCSteve,

Thanks for your efforts and sharing the like. All class on your part.


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take your pick.................any of those bullets will work well. I still like those Speer hot cores. They are cheap, yet very accurate and retain most of their weight. However, I'd be tempted to use the TSX for the moose hunt.

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Way cool!

good work, and thanks for sharing!


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Excellent performance from all, and it goes to show that some of the traditional cup and core bullets are much better than we often give them credit for. I don�t see where any of them will give you anything but a dead moose provided you did your part. If cost isn�t an issue, then the TSX would be my first choice for the sole reason that I would expect it to hold together better if you hit something like bone. Nice test, nice documentation, thanks for sharing.

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Good job, Guy! Thanks!

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Wow! The TSXs are amazing!


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Cool pics.Thank's for sharing.Those TSX are amazing like OCC stated.

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Thanks for the info on 35 cal bullets I shoot the TSX 225gr out of my 358STA and I love the way thay shoot fast, flat,and small groups. Randy...

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Nice info! Wish a Partition had been included. Seems to be a growing body of evidence that Barnes has gotten their act together. Might have to work on them for next year. Thrilled to see the Speer bullet hodling it own. Thanks for sharing all your efforts!


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I'm glad you guys are enjoying it. I should mentioned that the expanded diameters were measured at the widest part of the bullet. For the Speer and Hornady it was sometime a sliver of jacket or lead at an odd angle but for the TSX it was always a solid copper petal. So the diameter are probably even closer than the numbers show.

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Looks like they would all work pretty well.

Here's a bear a friend of mine got this spring with his .35 Whelen and a 225 TSX.

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Nice Black Bear. How big was the skull?

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I don't remember. I'll ask and get back.

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How big was the skull?


18 1/2 inches

BTW, I'm sure that was a green score.

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