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Just as a side note, I happen to be friends with Chris Farris and because of the way be buys them and sells them (direct) he can offer the scope at a much lower cost than lets say Leupold, Bushnell etc who have MUCH larger overhead costs to factor into their pricing. I saw MilQuad reticles before anyone knew the SS was even going to be produced again. I also know the guys who had major input in the reticle design as well.

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Who is Chris Farris??....Should I be impressed?.........................Hb

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Originally Posted by VaHillbilly
I am thinking of giving a Terra X3 4-12x42 a blind try.......so as I have never held one I'd like to hear what some of the campfire guy's that do have experience with these scope's think......How do they compare optically to Leupold scopes? are the Terra scopes VX3 quality optic's or do they compare better with the VX2 line?...............Thanks Hb


LGS has sale. The sign said 3-9x42 Z-Plex $249 and the one with "bullet drop" reticle $279 both after $50 rebate from Zeiss. Frankly I don't see how one could go wrong at those prices for new made in Japan Zeiss optics. I had Carl Zeiss Contax/Yashica mount Japanese lenses for almost 30 years and they perform fine to this day.

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Wow! Thats some great prices Slavek, but I dont think I will go with the Terra x3 now, thanks to my campfire buds I now know that eye relief on these aint so great, I will be mounting this scope on a Tikka T3 Superlight .300 WM so i better get an optic with a little better eye relief............Thanks Hb

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Don't think I'd put one on a win mag however the eye relief is lots for my 270 tikler. And for my 223 tikler.

In a head to head comparison with my leupy FX3 6X42 I gave it to the Zeiss Terra3.

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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Yep AWESOME review! I mean not one round fired but awesome!


Not one snippet of whether they work, but the GLASS!


It is absolutely amazing that anyone has managed to kill game without consulting you first. It blows my mind that it happens, or has happened for probably what....60 years?


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Was I wrong? A bunch of glowing reviews from dudes who have not shot a single round with it. Yep, that's where'd I'd get my info.

Only a moron would think reviews of an object that no one has used is worth anything.


I apologize for hurting your fragile ego by pointing out that most average hunting scopes are not suitable for distance work. But feel free to illuminate me on all your findings of firing a whole "200" rounds with one whole scope with CDS.

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I'd feel free to educate you on how I've killed over 200 head of big game since 1971 without twisting turrets, but you're ego won't let you learn from an "average" guy like me, so carry on with yourself. You're too much of a smartazzz for me to worry with anyway.


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Not a smartazz at all. You mistake simple reality for ego and you continually talk about things that are out of your depth of experience and then throw tantrums when someone calls you on it. I could care less if you or anyone else twists a turret in their lifetime. If distance ain't your gig or if scopes that hold a zero don't interest you then carry on. Please feel free to see if I've responded to posts titled- "I have no interest in shooting past 200 yards or scopes that work". When someone asks about distance or using turrets or reliable scopes- sorry, you're Leupold, Ziess, Burris variables are lacking. This is reality. No matter how many dudes that you've "guided" to a deer.

This discussion isn't about how much big game that you've killed, but if you like I'm comfortable discussing same. I've never killed more than about 60 in a day on crop damage. Of course that's not "hunting", though I've only broke into the 20's a year on regular tags not more than 8 or 10 times. Last year was slow, but I did manage to see what the fuss over the NF MOAR reticle was on 14 in a weeks time.


I would greatly like to hear your thoughts on DIY sage brush Mule deer hunting, and if you'd care to pen a treatise I would read.

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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Not a smartazz at all. You mistake simple reality for ego and you continually talk about things that are out of your depth of experience and then throw tantrums when someone calls you on it.


Such as......?


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I would greatly like to hear your thoughts on DIY sage brush Mule deer hunting, and if you'd care to pen a treatise I would read.


A guy like me couldn't possibly teach a guy like you anything. I think I'll pass.

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Formidilosus, its more than apparant your motives are not necessarily to just spread good information.

Any real hunter would have no problem putting meat in the freezer any friking day of the week using a Zeiss Terra3

I had never checked the eye relief on the two Zeiss Terra3s I've been using for about a year now but became a bit curious so I got out some rifles this morning and went to measuring as compared to a leupold FX3 6X42 I have.

The Terra3 was as advertised and my leupold was slightly less than advertized.

Realistically if slightly less than 1/4" will make or break you on eye relief something's wrong.



My advice, start lifting weights or take up knitting as BSA recommended.

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What are my motives then?

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You may just be the single biggest dumbf**k on this whole website. Truly an accomplishment of immense magnitude.

You have already proven yourself incompetent as to rifles, and I see you are now set out to prove same regarding optics.

So what did the Terra measure on 3X? 9X? What did the Leupold measure?

How were said measurements calculated?

You couldn't measure the diameter of a .308 bullet without f**king it up.....

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Originally Posted by 2muchgun
You may just be the single biggest dumbf**k on this whole website. Truly an accomplishment of immense magnitude.

You have already proven yourself incompetent as to rifles, and I see you are now set out to prove same regarding optics.

So what did the Terra measure on 3X? 9X? What did the Leupold measure?

How were said measurements calculated?

You couldn't measure the diameter of a .308 bullet without f**king it up.....


This kind of talk while hiding behind a screen is nothing short of chicken schit!

It doesn't sit right with me!

I'm willing to have this conversation face to face but not like this because any outdoorsman knows it would be chicken schit as hell to have a conversation like this hiding!

If not face to face I'll be replying to you no further.

Shod


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LMAO.

What's the problem, unable to back up your BS again, tough guy.

No surprise here.

You insult people regularly yet whine like a little b**ch when it happens to you.

Priceless....

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I'm not a tough guy at all!

Its just that I'm not a sneeky, hiding, little coward!

Sionora you scared,hiding, little chicken schit.

Shod

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I would say continually insulting people personally, then whining when the tables are turned is pretty cowardly, Princess.....

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Shodd,

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Formidilosus, its more than apparant your motives are not necessarily to just spread good information.

Any real hunter would have no problem putting meat in the freezer any friking day of the week using a Zeiss Terra3

I had never checked the eye relief on the two Zeiss Terra3s I've been using for about a year now but became a bit curious so I got out some rifles this morning and went to measuring as compared to a leupold FX3 6X42 I have.

The Terra3 was as advertised and my leupold was slightly less than advertized.

Realistically if slightly less than 1/4" will make or break you on eye relief something's wrong.



My advice, start lifting weights or take up knitting as BSA recommended.

Shod


It appears I'm late to this thread. I would really like to see your comparison figures.


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Ringman, I took measurements useing my scoped rifles. Seems like a more accurate way to get a real life reading.

Both the Leupold and Zeiss scope are on tikka rifles that are exact in every way except caliber.

Both scopes are adjusted to fit me when the rifle is shouldered.

The Zeiss scope sits just less than 1/4" further back when measuring from the recoil pad to the scope.

I then shouldered the rifle with the Zeiss scope and had a friend measure from my eye to the scope and he measured 3.6"

I actually own a Zeiss Terra3 and have used one for about a year. Though it doesn't make me an expert I think it does qualify as some experience.

It sure beats just shooting my f**king mouth off when I've never owned a terra3 nor fired a rifle with one on it for that matter.

Shod


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