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Great pieces though I prefer 'em blond. That said, I too, am not a fan of the 357.

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I think $650 is on the high side. But it's comes down to how much do you want it. grin

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nice gun but a tad high but who cares. try the 2.5" 19 and you will love it.


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I really knew nothing about this revolver except I liked it and I wanted it.
Thanks for all the input and information - even encouragement!

I'm flying to Dallas tomorrow morning for a week, (My Birthday.)
So I went to the Pawn Shop an hour ago and put the Model 19-2 on layby.

They said I could have it for $600 - YES! And thank you.
Might be a while before I can pay it off - but I will have it.

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Originally Posted by bcolorado
My thinking is generally I haven't paid too much for a firearm but have occasionally bought one a bit early cool

Price on the 19 you are looking at may be a bit "early".

The 4 inch 19-3 is one of my favorites(along with a 6 inch 19-3 and a 21/2 inch 66) and is a must have...

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WOW, that looks EXACTLY like my last 19, same grips and all. I miss that revolver.

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You done good. As others have also stated, I am not a big fan of the 357 magnum, much preferring the bigger bores. But I would have bought that one just because of what it is. I have always liked the model 19.


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Bill Jordan seemed to think that the 19 was OK.


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Originally Posted by 5sdad
Bill Jordan seemed to think that the 19 was OK.
He liked it a great deal, thinking it the ideal police sidearm. I think the Model 13 is that, however, i.e., same gun, but fixed sights. S&W's adjustable sights are too frail. A 13 with an ejector rod shroud would, perhaps, have been even better (protecting the ejector rod from being bent), but then you introduce the potential for mud filling it in (if the gun makes contact with the ground during a struggle) and preventing closure of the cylinder, so the shroud is a wash, all things considered.


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I liked the 13 as well. (Thought that I had to sell it to justify buying the 19 - now that I am older and have a bit more money, I kick myself for getting rid of it, but it was a different time and a different financial situation.) As you say, the shroud is a wash as to impaired function. I had not thought about the mud-filling idea, only the bending, which leads to the Colts - I always wondered why they were designed with the rod completely naked on the end, just looking for something to catch on.


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Originally Posted by 5sdad
I liked the 13 as well. (Thought that I had to sell it to justify buying the 19 - now that I am older and have a bit more money, I kick myself for getting rid of it, but it was a different time and a different financial situation.) As you say, the shroud is a wash as to impaired function. I had not thought about the mud-filling idea, only the bending, which leads to the Colts - I always wondered why they were designed with the rod completely naked on the end, just looking for something to catch on.
Good point about Colts. But the geometry of the ejector rod's position, in relation to the barrel and frame, tends to offer it a great deal of protection all by itself.


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Originally Posted by 5sdad
Bill Jordan seemed to think that the 19 was OK.
I would hope so since he's the one who told S&W to make it.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
A 13 with an ejector rod shroud would, perhaps, have been even better (protecting the ejector rod from being bent), but then you introduce the potential for mud filling it in (if the gun makes contact with the ground during a struggle) and preventing closure of the cylinder, so the shroud is a wash, all things considered.
While that's a very good point about the ejector shroud and the mud, I think (especially in decades past) the more likely scenario was a bent ejector rod. I'd bet you'd have 10 bent ejector rods to every one shroud filled up with mud.

It's interesting to note that in every military test of S&W vs. Colt's DA revolver, the Colt's have proven to be more reliable in bad conditions. The internals of the Colt allow for more gunk, with things only getting tight at the last minute.

Still, I'm a S&W guy through and through. I can respect the design of the Colt's, and I'll always stick up for them when someone's trying to say they're "fragile", but S&W's are just MY kind of revolver. (with that said, I do carry a Colt's Cobra quite often).

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Originally Posted by GunGeek
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Bill Jordan seemed to think that the 19 was OK.
I would hope so since he's the one who told S&W to make it.


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those 19's are nice. I had an opportunity to pick one up a couple years back NIB, went with the 686 instead. I don't regret my decision, but there's nothing wrong with a 19 either. I just prefer the full lug barrel.


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Originally Posted by GunGeek
It's interesting to note that in every military test of S&W vs. Colt's DA revolver, the Colt's have proven to be more reliable in bad conditions. The internals of the Colt allow for more gunk, with things only getting tight at the last minute.

Still, I'm a S&W guy through and through. I can respect the design of the Colt's, and I'll always stick up for them when someone's trying to say they're "fragile", but S&W's are just MY kind of revolver. (with that said, I do carry a Colt's Cobra quite often).
I like the Colts just about as well as the S&Ws. I carried a Detective Special for a few years, and I can really shoot the heck out of an Official Police. Maybe even a hair better than I can a K-Frame Smith & Wesson.


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Originally Posted by n8dawg6
those 19's are nice. I had an opportunity to pick one up a couple years back NIB, went with the 686 instead. I don't regret my decision, but there's nothing wrong with a 19 either. I just prefer the full lug barrel.
The original idea behind the full lug (first found on the Python) was to add forward weight with competitive shooting in mind. I like the looks of one on a Python, but not on a Smith & Wesson.


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I did the same with a 4" GP100 for $300, including a pretty decent trigger job, tritium front sight, and Hogue grips.

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My first model 19 four inch was acquired in the 70's when i was playing popo. I have fired thousands of rounds through it. The sights have not fallen off yet.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Bill Jordan seemed to think that the 19 was OK.
He liked it a great deal, thinking it the ideal police sidearm. I think the Model 13 is that, however, i.e., same gun, but fixed sights. S&W's adjustable sights are too frail. A 13 with an ejector rod shroud would, perhaps, have been even better (protecting the ejector rod from being bent), but then you introduce the potential for mud filling it in (if the gun makes contact with the ground during a struggle) and preventing closure of the cylinder, so the shroud is a wash, all things considered.


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