He politically skated around the questions of using drugs and his military service. He is a conniving snake, but still easily 40 clicks above a Clinton and probably 100 above Obama...
He politically skated around the questions of using drugs and his military service. He is a conniving snake, but still easily 40 clicks above a Clinton and probably 100 above Obama...
I think you give him too much credit.
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
I wanted to say don't trust anyone who wears a bolo tie, but figured there were probably some guys here who actually wear them, so I refrained.
I'm not backing Schweitzer after the crap he's pulled. The Stillwater Mine takeover was about as shady as it comes, and the Mines Management deal is looking more than a little suspect.
He politically skated around the questions of using drugs and his military service. He is a conniving snake, but still easily 40 clicks above a Clinton and probably 100 above Obama...
I think you give him too much credit.
You misread my point. He isn't that good, they are just that bad...
Wow, people actually DO read the articles in there!
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same." - Ronald Reagan
Wow, people actually DO read the articles in there!
Playboy has articles?
Ed
"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell
Well, I read the interview in it's entirety and I can't find much wrong with his views...if they're honest views. Perhaps the Montanan's could provide an alternate view to his eight years as Governor. I would honestly be interested as I really don't see a GOP or Demo answer to whats wrong with this country
Well, I read the interview in it's entirety and I can't find much wrong with his views...if they're honest views. Perhaps the Montanan's could provide an alternate view to his eight years as Governor. I would honestly be interested as I really don't see a GOP or Demo answer to whats wrong with this country
Charlie
Just think of that "if" as you would the Clinton "is". Brian S. will say anything if it will move him forward on his personal checker board.
“Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.” ― G. Orwell
"Why can't men kill big game with the same cartridges women and kids use?" _Eileen Clarke
"Unjust authority confers no obligation of obedience." - Alexander Hamilton
Look up the Milk River ranch deal if you want to see him in action.
Exactly. Phouc that POS.
Yes, he is a piece of work for sure. Although I laughed pretty hard when he called Eric Cantor a [bleep] . He is also playing legal games with a mine in Libby trying to extort money, pure slimebag.
"Life is tough, even tougher if your stupid" John Wayne
thanks for clarifying his eight years as guv, no offense meant, but I was looking for some empirical data, albeit wrapped in an opinion.
Charlie
The problem is you shouldn't use Schweitzer' record as gov as a base line to determine what he would be like as a candidate/politician outside of MT.
this, he is a full blown politician......he isnt necessarily better cause he is coming out of a state like Montana....we do have polititians in this state that have a fair bit of integrity and such.....King Brian aint one of those.......
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When he was running for Gov....literally the day before the election, he was out pressing the flesh. Approached me, hand held out saying " Hi, Im Brian Schw..." I cut him off and said " I know who you are." Then had the pleasure of turning my back on him and walking away....and Oh, I forgot to shake his hand too....
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
no clue and he could wind up alot better than Hillary near impossible to be worse than Obama but he is a full blown politician so its hard to tell WTF he will do in DC.....comes between hin and Hillary or someone like Kerry yeah ill vote for him cause he is likely better.....
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A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books
thanks for clarifying his eight years as guv, no offense meant, but I was looking for some empirical data, albeit wrapped in an opinion.
Charlie
The problem is you shouldn't use Schweitzer' record as gov as a base line to determine what he would be like as a candidate/politician outside of MT.
Respectfully, Not my problem at all, all I asked from the locals was some empirical data and I acknowledged your right to opine on that data. Critical analysis requires a lot of thought and some hard work in articulating those thoughts in a meaningful fashion. I don't know your states politics at all, but Brian Scheitzer did serve two terms in your state and I thought someone from Montana might be able to articulate those two terms without histrionics.
Schweitzer is a cronyist of the first order. The Spotted Dog fiasco in Deer Lodge, buying a ranch to bail out a big developer, using Damage funds for undamaged land. Milk River scam was another, then there is the state land ripoffs near Whitefish that utterly hosed the school trusts. Never mind his girl Mary Sexton who brokered the Montana Legacy Project on ratepayer dime. Then there is his claim jumping in western Montana, trying to tear off a chunk of a huge copper and silver play that has laid in process for at least 15 years now. He has done the "Image Is Everything" model to perfection. He's a wonderful political mind, he knows how to apply the basest emotions and utter shamelessness. But he is fundamentally one of the most opportunistic showboats I have ever met. It's all about him, every time, every word. I don't know why Jag hasn't ripped out his throat yet.
Up hills slow, Down hills fast Tonnage first and Safety last.
Schweitzer is a cronyist of the first order. The Spotted Dog fiasco in Deer Lodge, buying a ranch to bail out a big developer, using Damage funds for undamaged land. Milk River scam was another, then there is the state land ripoffs near Whitefish that utterly hosed the school trusts. Never mind his girl Mary Sexton who brokered the Montana Legacy Project on ratepayer dime. Then there is his claim jumping in western Montana, trying to tear off a chunk of a huge copper and silver play that has laid in process for at least 15 years now. He has done the "Image Is Everything" model to perfection. He's a wonderful political mind, he knows how to apply the basest emotions and utter shamelessness. But he is fundamentally one of the most opportunistic showboats I have ever met. It's all about him, every time, every word. I don't know why Jag hasn't ripped out his throat yet.
Pretty good synopsis of Ol' Brian.
He is certainly a showboater of the highest order. Such as in this excerpt from the Playboy article: "But if you go to any Indian reservation, ............ and ask who has been the best governor in the history of this country for Indian causes, they�d all say Brian Schweitzer."
Schweitzer is a cronyist of the first order. The Spotted Dog fiasco in Deer Lodge, buying a ranch to bail out a big developer, using Damage funds for undamaged land. Milk River scam was another, then there is the state land ripoffs near Whitefish that utterly hosed the school trusts. Never mind his girl Mary Sexton who brokered the Montana Legacy Project on ratepayer dime. Then there is his claim jumping in western Montana, trying to tear off a chunk of a huge copper and silver play that has laid in process for at least 15 years now. He has done the "Image Is Everything" model to perfection. He's a wonderful political mind, he knows how to apply the basest emotions and utter shamelessness. But he is fundamentally one of the most opportunistic showboats I have ever met. It's all about him, every time, every word. I don't know why Jag hasn't ripped out his throat yet.
No empirical data here. Don't really have time to look things up right now for hard numbers. Just another personal experience.
Had the good fortune of knowing our former governor in passing. Good lady. Good businesswoman. Ran the government and budget process like a business. Looks like money will be short next year, better cut back some now.
Torqued off all the bleeding heart liberals of course. But her budgeting kept our state in great financial position.
BS wins and states that the previous governor was full of crap worthless and he was going to totally revamp the state government because the previous guv was incompetent, etc.
Leaves the budget pretty much alone. The first year, state's in good shape and a-hole BS is walking around, chest puffed out bloviating about what a great financial manager he is. All the while, the credit goes to the previous governor who had done the hard work of setting a budget and keeping it in place to restrain government spending.
Dave Skinner covered a number of issues far better than I could of.
The pressures on the head of state are a whole different ball game in D C than Montana. The other issue that is often not considered is the party hacks that go into the White House with the pres. Most pres. elects do not have the time or the ability to control all of the critical positions that are filled. The party winds up in control unless the pres. elect is better than anybody in recent history. My opinion anyway yours may differ.
Schweitzer would not BE governor if Judy Martz hadn't been so loyal to her staffer Shane Hedges. Shane -- basically a young Karl Rove type operative, got slammed up at Marysville and rolled his truck, killing Paul Sliter, who was a number one goodfellah and Speaker at the time. Judy was really hurt there, she just didn't have the shameless gene to throw Hedges under the bus. So then Bob Brown, a 26 year "moderate" Republican (actually, a pro-life liberal) ran for governor against BS in 2004. Got his butt kicked, nice guy against first rate knife-fighter showboat who hired national spin doctors (try David Sirota) for his campaign. Frankly, Brown is a lot like Charlie Crist, no real core values. He's moved on to the Center for the Rocky Mtn West alongside Pat Williams, and that job and paycheck has pushed him even further to the left. But it all goes back to one person and his drunken foolishness, which cost Montana a fine, pragmatic Republican mind in Paul Sliter. And in the end, gave Sheister his second chance. I think Hedges is in Delaware or someplace now -- hope he stays there.
Up hills slow, Down hills fast Tonnage first and Safety last.
Schweitzer would not BE governor if Judy Martz hadn't been so loyal to her staffer Shane Hedges. Shane -- basically a young Karl Rove type operative, got slammed up at Marysville and rolled his truck, killing Paul Sliter, who was a number one goodfellah and Speaker at the time. Judy was really hurt there, she just didn't have the shameless gene to throw Hedges under the bus. So then Bob Brown, a 26 year "moderate" Republican (actually, a pro-life liberal) ran for governor against BS in 2004. Got his butt kicked, nice guy against first rate knife-fighter showboat who hired national spin doctors (try David Sirota) for his campaign. Frankly, Brown is a lot like Charlie Crist, no real core values. He's moved on to the Center for the Rocky Mtn West alongside Pat Williams, and that job and paycheck has pushed him even further to the left. But it all goes back to one person and his drunken foolishness, which cost Montana a fine, pragmatic Republican mind in Paul Sliter. And in the end, gave Sheister his second chance. I think Hedges is in Delaware or someplace now -- hope he stays there.
At the risk of getting too deep into Montana-shop-talk, I think the Hedges incident just weakened Martz. Yes, she wouldn't throw Hedges under the bus but the real problem came when they started attacking her for a supposed sweetheart land deal. Judy felt it was below her to respond. And before you know it, they had the public so against her, it wasn't worth her time to fight it. Damn shame. Judy and Harry are really good folks. Still torques me off when I think of all what happened.
I will never vote for anyone in the Democratic party. NEVER !
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much" Teddy Roosevelt
Change parties or in an open primary, vote for BS.. Enough people do it, and he'll beat hitlery in the primary. Bam, you can vote how you want in the general.
Guaranteed, his mouth will keep team clinton from buying him off with a cabinet position.
Get BS in love with himself enough, if he loses the primary, he runs as an independent.. That will siphon off votes from the democrat primary winner, especially in the mountain west, where the dems will still need Colorado to win the whitehouse.
This is Brian's only shot, and he's dying to take it.
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I replace valve cover gaskets every 50K, if they don't need them sooner...
And that deal was tater tots compared to what Schweitzer pulled off. The Spotted Skunk ranch was only worth about 5 million max as a ranch, yet 15.2 million (or maybe .6) went to buy it, from the Superfund pool. The net effect was to take Spotted Dog off the trophy market and leave Rock Creek all alone in the Deer Lodge top-end market, while bailing the Yanke (R-Y) clan out from under land it had bought to log, and then sell off for the suddenly-dead-meat trophy market. So now there's a new GMA, and the additional hunting :opportunity" comes at a cost of $1,600 per additional hunter DAY. Not elk shot, HUNTER DAY. Never mind the sudden new plan to put bison on there. Schweitzer is orders of magnitude past Martz. He didn't benefit directly, but you can bet he was considering his fundraising future.
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. He is also playing legal games with a mine in Libby trying to extort money, pure slimebag. 
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