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A good two gun combo would be a ruger 22/45 for quiet light recoil inexspensive practice and small game hunting, teamed up with a 1911 in 45 acp. You'll have the same grips and controls for both guns.
I can relate to not caring for the noise of guns, which is why I use double hearing protection every time I shoot. As far as recoil, lightweight guns kick alot, so I've found I'd rather pack a slightly heavier gun I can shoot well, vs a featherweight I can't.
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FYI
Just got a new copy of Outdoor Life today. They recommend the Glock 20 ,in 10mm, as a survival auto. Seems it has a 15rd capacity.
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Seems it has a 15rd capacity. So they say. Your thumb won't think so after the 13th round. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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My Glock 20 recoil ain't bad at all. A plus is that Glock will sell you a 6" barrel that just drops in and mine cranks up the 10mm cartridge right smartly. As for the fella who asked about the Delta Elites, 6of us bought them at the same time and none had any problems. The only glitch I ever saw on mine was the disconnecter notch in the slide peened a little bit abut never effected safety or operation. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Glock 20, 10mm. Great all round pistol. However, I'd not get rid of my Kimber 1911 either.
I got it!! Carry both!!!
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Spot:
Handguns are tools for me. I just don't have the passion for them that I do for rifles. BUT! I do own a few. A field gun for me has to be light enough and compact enough that I'll carry it rather than leave it behind. I do some day long fishing hikes in some rough country and usually am the only two legged critter around. Recently, I have been seeing bears (more than a couple) on some of my all day fishing hikes, and we have a scary population of rattlesnakes, although I've seen more bears than snakes this year.
I have owned most every category of handgun you can think of in the past 30 years but have thankfully never used a handgun for defense (except to shoot snakes). I am currently carrying a Glock 23 much of the time. It functions perfectly with CCI snake shot and is surprisingly easy to shoot at defensive ranges. I like it so much that I'm considering getting a 20 as well. I am aware that a 40 S&W is a pizz poor bear stopper and that has been on my mind recently. The 10mm with possibly the Double Tap hard cast or a full load HP (Cor-Bon) or some such would be a better choice and IMO the best of the autos.
Realistically, a revolver makes more sense, and I am also considering a Taurus Tracker 44 magnum (I'd only shoot stout 44 spls in it). But the Glock has appeal and currently has my interest b/c the 40 is so easy to shoot.
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I liked the Glock 20 until I learned I cannot safely reload for it. I've shot lots of reloads but do not want to risk an accident so I will have to decide if I will keep it to shoot only factory or move it out and pick up a delta elite or Smith or something (Witness?) . Missed a great deal on Gunbroker on a Delta Elite! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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Another option might be an aftermarket barrel for the 20. Most all of them are fully supported chambers.
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�It functions perfectly with CCI snake shot and is surprisingly easy to shoot at defensive ranges.. By this do you mean it cycles the action and functions as an auto?? I�ve never seen CCI snake shot even move a slide, let alone function. When I carry an auto, I hand cycle snake shot loads, which is inconvenient, but much more convenient than being bit by a snake. In anything smaller than .45ACP, I have found you need at least two shots to kill something even as small as Copperheads, because CCI uses #9 shot, when they should be using #12 for all shot cartridges.
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Yes to both.................pleasant surprise to me too.
(Although).....I only shot two b/c I had bummed four to try out and wanted to save a couple. Since then, I have bought a couple of boxes and will re-confirm. Will re-post if different results.
Pretty good pattern @ 10 feet too. Better than my 686
Update........just shot 6 rds alternating shot/fmj in each of my two mags....worked perfectly.
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That's an excellent suggestion, Jim. Thank you!
Can you, or anyone, recommend a such a barrel manufacturer that would allow reloads?
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Try this site........and watch your credit card balance....... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Lone Wolf Distributors I'm sure there are others. JimF
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Spotshooter,
If you mean to hunt deer legally, check you local gun laws. I believe Indiana has a cartridge length minimum which the .45ACP does not meet.
Between most 1911s and H&K the H&K wins hands down on many levels. My Elite has a boxcar of ammo through it with never a failure. And it makes me hit the where I intend to. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
Actually after a series of 1911 style semiautos, I sold mine and moved up to an H&K. Para Ordnance was by far my works experience but I had serious issues with Ed Brown and Kimber too.
No doubt these problems were mine but I have NEVER had a malfunction with my H&Ks and Glocks.
If you shot a 10 mm well, it might just be the ticket. The gun might be a bit large for easy concealed carry though.
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RickyD, Mike McNett at DoubleTap sells aftermarket barrels that have fully supported chambers. He also is the main information guru on reloading for the 10mm on glocktalk. http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=179348He will even install it for you if you send him your gun. Good guy to deal with. http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.phpought6
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I'll second JimF's experiences with the CCI shotshells. They work just fine in the 1911A1s I've tried them in.
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Those are good links. Thanks!
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