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I'm an LEO and recently found a 20 year old boy dead after what turned out to be a heroin overdose. I had to talk to his mother about it who had just lost her husband to a heart attack six months ago. She relied on her son to help with their family business and she had recently taken him back in after a stint in rehab. He had gone to an NA meeting that same day. It's heart breaking.

I know what your saying and agree in most cases but when your wife is threatened by one of these lowlifes I think even you would change your mind.

No doubt. The world was theirs, right there before them, with everything they needed to succeed. Good families, good friends, good upbringing, healthy and a mile ahead of 90% of others around the world to begin with, and yet, they just fooking threw it all away...

I never drank much booze even while I was a young loud mouthed punk. I smoked cigarettes for twenty four years and then just quit. The driving force in my quitting was when my two little girls came to me one evening and begged me to give smoking up as they didn't want me to die from cancer. That was back in 1976. I didn't have much of a problem in quitting. Just made up my mind to quit and did it.

Never had any desire to try any drug from MJ on up. There were a few times when I drank enough whiskey to get drunk and do things that I wouldn't have otherwise. Must have thought it fun at the time but later on was completely ashamed of some of the things I did. In other words, I lost control of myself and didn't like that so I quit that also.

Now we all (most) condemn people using drugs but many people seem to base their manhood on what kind and how much booze they consume and think nothing of it. Being around somebody that is drunk or even a little bit drunk (if that's possible) is more than I can handle. We probably all have been around some guy that has been drinking a little and he doesn't realize it but he is starting to say and do things he wouldn't if he was not drinking. Not good.

My sister has a son that's been an addict for most of his 30 years.

The sad thing is, she has now defined her life by his success or failure. When it started involving my family, I made the cut. Haven't lost any sleep over it.

Thank the drug war for turning what would be $1.60 of useless into 160 reasons to victimize someone today with 160 more tomorrow.

Heard of many alcoholics stealing six figures from their families or copper from my house? Because a half gallon of Bowmans is 10 bucks and they don't have to.

Hmm. That's a weird side-effect.

Fun thread, BTW.

Lost a very close friend to heroin overdose. He was only 25. Had most everything going for him. Never guessed him to be a junky. Sure he smoked a bit of pot now and then knew him to occasionally pop a few pills. I had similar transgressions now and then. Never seen him strung out or dope sick.

He came from a great family. He was in school was originally from a smaller town about 60 miles away. Some days his mom would drop by were we both worked just to say hi and drop off lunch. She and his dad were both counselors for troubled youth. He would try and get home to be with his family as often as possible.

He had a couple days off coming up and wanted to head home. It was not pay week and he was short money. As I left work for the day I gave him fifty bucks and told him jokingly don't do anything stupid.

Two days later I get the call that he was found the day before dead in a dope house of an overdose. Never had a death hit me so hard. Could not get the thought out of my head of what if I had not given him the money.

It is a terrible drug that can be easily hidden. I saw the guy five days a week and did not have a clue and his parents did not either. Don't think there is any reason a user could give for using that would make any sense to a non user. Some of their "problems" I would not even crack a beer over if I had to deal with them.

Guy I work with is 53. His daughter who has always been trouble had a kid while on heroin. She just left it there and he brought it home from the hospital. So now him and his wife care for it.

Nothing like raising a newborn living in a travel trailer and driving an hour to work each way. He's got 8 kids now, 4 of his and 4 of his wifes kids plus his grandkid now. I think he supports all but one of them.

I like beer. Seriously enjoy the taste of beer, but I have maybe 1 or 2 a week. Maybe. And I don't go out of my way for it. Same with liquor - mainly scotch and tequila.

Tobacco smoke. I love it. Second hand, 1st hand - whatever.

Pipe, cigar, doesn't matter.

When I finally quit my 26 year habit, the hardest thing was sticking the 1st week. I'd drop it for a day or two, sometimes 4 or 5, but I would always end up stopping at a gas station and grabbing a pack, or bumming one off my Dad or co-workers.

I had to nibble that thing down by forcing myself not to smoke at specific trigger times - (driving, after meals, work breaks, etc) until I finally realized I had a "pack every week" habit. Then I was able to convince myself it was truly kickable. Haven't had one in months. Don't even want one.

But I'll walk through a cloud of people smoking every now and then, just to get a whiff.

If I ever have to give up midget oriental hookers, I don't know what I'd do.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, junkie.



Travis

WIthout cope, I doubt I could.

It wouldnt be called an addiction but for years I chewed tobacco. Didnt need it, could go days without. When two friends got oral cancer I quit. Havent bought a poke in years, have only begged maybe 6 chews in over 10 years. However everytime I see or smell the stuff I want some ... bad.

I have a hard time wrapping my mind around true addiction...

I used to work with a guy that no matter what he did it was balls to the wall. He popped hydrocodone like candy for years and probably continues today. Even though he could barely play a guitar, he purchased 53 Fender guitars in about a 1 year span.

He spent 20K on trap and skeet shooting when he got into that for a year or two. His whole life is one addiction after another, whether it booze, cigarettes, pills, or guitars, and it has cost him his wives and kids.

I simply don't get it?

Seen a bunch of Jesus addicts too...

I think so too. I'm convinced that some folk have a familial or genetic makeup that makes them much more susceptible to addictive behavior. It's not quite as simple as just stating they are completely stupid, selfish, or uncaring of others and family. And I'm not justifying it or excusing it or cutting them any slack but it might be a window into how some and their family members struggle mightily with, say alcohol, and others can walk away.

Of course there are all the other pieces of the collage--like emotional hurt, anger, etc.,-- that go into a person seeking escape in some type of temporary euphoria.

My personal opinion of the various rehab programs and their overall dismal success rate which IIRC is less than or somewhere around 15% lies in their secularizing the programs and taking God as The Higher Power out of them. Now a guy can name his truck as his joke'n "higher power." I'm convinced that for many hard core addicts there will only be freedom in Christ. Outside of that, slim chance.

For 10 years of my life I smoked around an ounce of pot every week.For anyone that doesn't know, that's about 100 joints a week.

I was born again and have been completely free for 18 years. No withdraws, no going back even a little.

It's the one addiction that can save you.