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The title of this site would indicate members who are outdoors men. Republican or Democrat, no thinking man can ignore this warning. Corporations and states with the "garage sale" signs on their capitols will pick the bone of America clean. The feds may be for sale at times but can not be compared to the puppet legislators in many states. These are our lands, I would like to keep them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/opinion/the-land-grab-out-west.html?rref=opinion

The Government has no business owning land.

TED,

Not to offend you, but what would you really know about public lands out West?

Pat is right. The government not only owns the lands out west, but controls way too much of what goes on in those states. Mismanagement of public lands is an understatement.

Not living out West doesn't mean he doesn't, or can't, understand the issues.

Most of us don't live in D.C. but we certainly grasp the issues going on there.

On topic, I've said before and still believe this has been, and will always be, about protecting (or controlling) the watersheds. Control the water, control the people.

Being closer to the situation at hand offers a more comprehensive look at the big picture, and witnessing the gross mismanagement personally, as well as the blank check the environmental terrorist groups have now with Obama regime is enlightening.

It's hard to get the full flavor of something with just a nibble.

Dem Senator op-ed in the New York Times.....sorry, red flag

You're right. They should drain all the reservoirs in Texas, including Lake Fork, and give the land back to the farmers and timber companies.

Well if the Democrats are against it than I'm for it. I've yet to see anything the Democrats favor that is good for the country or me.

government owns and controls what we have allowed them to do.

When I lived back East I didn't understand the issues of the West and belong to a number of liberal organizations to preserve Western lands. I moved West and discovered everything I thought I knew about the West and it's lands was pretty much wrong.

Nobody living in the East can comprehend the West and nobody living in the West can comprehend the East. They are two separate countries.

Now there's a great comparison.

Lake Fork is run by the Sabine River Authority, and is a State of Texas project.

We aren't talking civil infrastructure here. We are talking about tens of millions of undeveloped land the Federal Government has control of.

Look at the quote I responded to, it simply says "government". There are plenty of COE and Bureau of Reclaimation reservoirs in Texas, if that makes you feel any better. The reference to Fork was because that's Lt's fishing hole.

How do you plan on protecting the land for your children, Lt...with your billy club maybe.

Guess the question would be, who subtends to "we", and wtf are you.
You're trying to sell this line of chit in the wrong marketplace, Mister.

GTC

Not being wealthy, for the last 50 years I have hunted, fished or camped on public land in 49 of the states. I do have a concept of what has been save for us and what else should perhaps be saved. Sure, there has been mismanagement, but on the whole we are better off than having piecemeal management.

Did you read it...no, no sorry...ignorance is bliss.

While I wholeheartedly agree that having the West managed by a herd of concrete canyon liberals from Washington DC has not worked out well, I also do not want the entirety of the US to be posted "Private Property. Keep Out."

Ted, I read your op-ed and stand by what I said.
Nice try.

I couldn't agree more. Thye Federal Government stole almost all of my families land to make Sam Rayburn Reservoir.

Eminent Domain is BS.